The China threat to America

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Yup, I see you didn't mention the PANDEMIC or the nice relief package and maybe another one too..
     
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    I see you forgot to include the pandemic again LMAO :) I don't know how you do that when you literally have 100's of post on that very subject littering this forum :wierdface::shock::roll:
     
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    Opps! Another avid COVID poster that fails to recognize the PANDEMIC they are so-so worried about all day long ;)
     
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    We're much better off now. ;)

    Obama carried us out of the deepest hole since the depression. And it was a hole created by Republicans and core Republican economic principles.
     
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  5. ButterBalls

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    LOOK, no COVID anywhere in the post.. It must be over now HAPPY DAYS!
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    What? Trump's economy was on the verge of crashing anyway. ;)

    trump needs to take lessons from Andrea Merkel on how to be a leader. She has done a GREAT job with Germany - far fewer deaths and far less economic turmoil.
     
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  7. ButterBalls

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    LMAO, predictions and ignoring data and critical reasoning. You crack me up, in another thread we will read how opening up the country and leaving the house will KILL US ALL!!!!
     
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  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What????

    Are you saying that hydroxychloroquine is not the cure?

    I have a short 50 minute video of Giuliani that is sure to... blow your mind! Maybe somebody can help us find it....
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well... the answer to your question is: because you realize how idiotic it would be to start recovering an economy by creating managerial jobs. You're not surprised because it's obvious that you start at the bottom. By creating jobs that anybody can carry out. So that people can get money to buy at Walmart, so Walmart hires more cashiers, who can then go buy lunch at BK, which hires more personnel, and accountants, who need computers, which forces computer companies to hire more people, who need supervision, and they are forced to hire managers, and the company makes more money, which makes profits that goes to stockholders.

    That, in a nutshell, is how you recover an economy. Looks simple. But it takes years. 6 to 8 years, to be exact, for the low skill jobs to start generating a large number of SKILLED jobs, so that an orange idiot who has passed not even a single piece of relevant legislation, can claim that he did it all!
     
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    WOW, you used to be fairly good at this, now you haven't much game left, well if every really had any to start with :(
     
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    Then there is EIGHT years and EIGHT trillion dollar too :) Oh how the mighty have fallen :(
     
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    What a bunch of crap. The Republicans refused to allow Obama any real stimulus. Whining about the deficit that doesnt matter now. Obama could have given a bunch of money to huge corps, and gotten cred, but kept things at a dull roar, to keep inflation in check. And ward off any bubbles. Trump started creating bubbles immed.
     
  13. ButterBalls

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    Well that was nonsense ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
  14. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just wanted to mention It's OK that you didn't read my post. I sometimes prepare a draft before opening a thread. And that was it. I didn't expect you to read it. It's a bit... "profound" (if we could call it that) for the type of posts that I know you prefer.
     
  15. ButterBalls

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    Well if you actually knew what sort of posts I prefer you wouldn't be posting to me at all LMAO. I certainly don't like bias, contradictive, unrealistic and incomplete analysis. But that's what the left bring to the table and some are just incredibly easy targets to expose..
     
  16. Marine1

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    That's bull crap. The recession was caused by the housing industry, any economist will tell you that and the Democrats were up to their neck to help cause that. Forcing banks to make loans to the poor. Many so poor they should have never been given a loan. But Clinton required that banks make a percentage of their loans to the poor and if not he had the AG sue them. Also flipping houses caused another part of that catastrophe. Democrats started that in 1993 and kept it up right up to the crash. Bush also pushed for hoe loans for the poor, but required people had to show they were qualified for one.

    It was Bush that got us started out of the recession. He bailed out the banks. You can't have a recovery if people can't borrow to buy. Bush also started the bailout of the auto industry just a few weeks before his term was up. Obama carried on from there. He had nowhere to go but up. Still he had the worst recovery on record because of his policies.


    Here was the very start of the fall of the banks, by pushing banks to make loans to the poor, when they couldn't afford them.

    Please catch the date of this article.



    U.S. To Push Banks on Credit in Poor Areas

    December 09, 1993|ROBERT A. ROSENBLATT and CHRIS KRAUL | TIMES STAFF WRITERS


    WASHINGTON — The Clinton Administration, hoping to generate billions of dollars in new loans for small businesses and residents in poor and minority neighborhoods, on Wednesday unveiled proposed new rules requiring banks and thrifts to aggressively seek new customers in all parts of their communities.

    Federal regulators will now be much tougher in demanding that financial institutions make credit available to the poor as well as the affluent, said Comptroller of the Currency Eugene A. Ludwig, whose recent travels have taken him from South-Central Los Angeles to a reservation in North Carolina to hear complaints about the lack of credit in low-income areas.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1993-12-...ommunity-banks
     
  17. Marine1

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    That isn't true either. Trump's economy was hot right up to the start of this virus discovery. Look at job growth in January.


    It’s been cold outside but the American job creation machine was red hot in January.
    The American economy added 304,000 jobs in January. The unemployment rate ticked up to 4.0 percent, the government said Friday.

    Economists had expected 158,000 nonfarm payroll growth and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 3.9 percent.

    December was revised down from the originally reported 312,000 to 222,000. That’s a very large revision. November’s report, which was originally reported at a very weak 155,000 and revised up to 176,000, was again revised to 196,000.

    The manufacturing sector added 13,000 jobs in January, making its 12-month total 261,000. That was slightly lower than the 15,000 that economists had forecast but still evidence of healthy growth.


    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/02/01/jobsjanuary/
     
  18. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a lot easier to take care of 83 million people as Germany has than taking care of 331 million in the U.S. You need almost four times as much of everything.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Orange idiot cut taxes which Obama had the highest corporate taxes in the world and he cut regulations which was also one of the highest. That sir is what brought good jobs back. Orange idiot made it possible for companies to once again compete in America. I agree when you first start you start at the bottom. But it's a lot different starting at the bottom at Walmart that pays $9.00 an hour and starting in a automotive factory that starts out at $19.00 an hour. Makes even more of a difference if Walmart is part time and the auto factory is full time. This sir is the difference between Obama's jobs and Trump's jobs. This is the reason wages were higher in Trump's first year than any of Obama's eight years. Your stupid Democrat leaders are talking of doing the same stupid thing Obama did if elected. As you can see, he didn't need to pass any legislation to get what he needed.



    In a race to the finish, Obama administration presses ahead ...
    www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-a-race-to-the...
    As the future Trump administration begins to take shape, the Obama White House is engaged in a frenzied, final effort to put in place as many new rules and regulations as time allows.



    20,642 New Regulations Added in the Obama Presidency
    www.dailysignal.com/2016/05/23/20642-new...
    More than $22 billion per year in new regulatory costs were imposed on Americans last year, pushing the total burden for the Obama years to exceed $100 billion annually.



    The U.S. Has the Highest Corporate Income Tax Rate in the ...
    https://taxfoundation.org/us-has-highest-corporate-income-tax-rate-oecd
    In today’s globalized world, U.S. Corporations are increasingly at a competitive disadvantage. They currently face the highest statutory corporate income tax rate in the world at 39.1 percent. This overall rate is a combination of our 35 percent federal rate and the average rate levied by U.S. States.
     
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    We'll let the Free AMERICAN Market set wage levels. China is a gross polluter, and while their goods with the costs cut LOOK cheaper, they aren't. With the pandemic they loosed, China's goods are the most expensive in the world. THINK!

    COLLUSION: Professors working with China are ‘selling out the American people.’

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    75 Confucius Institutes at higher education institutions across the country.

    "Confucius Institutes are Chinese Communist Party centers on college campuses. They purport to teach Chinese language and culture to students on campus, but the Chinese minister of propaganda openly admits they are propaganda centers to influence the curriculum on campus and control the narrative around the Chinese government."

    Chinese influence which involves the Chinese Communist Party "buying research from American professors."
     
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    Our biggest threat is ourselves—power constituencies within our borders whose purpose is dollars and cents and absolutely nothing else.

    It’s our values stupid.

    We don’t get into this mess with China without them leading the way.
     
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    Which had zero positive impact on the economy. Keep trying!

    What specific regulation was eliminated that created millions of jobs? Two that I know of were the elimination of the office in the WH dealing with pandemics, as well as the guide on what to do in cases of crisis like this one. But the only thing that has contributed to is unemployment approaching 25 million.
     
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    ~ Likely because they park in front of CNN / broadcast "news" media. :disbelief:
     
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    We needed trump.

    But dc is aagainst him.
     
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