As U.S. Covid19 deaths near 100,000, Trump believes the death count is inflated

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  1. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    HOWEVER, in the private sector, the Board of Directors would blame the CEO.

    JPMorgan Chase CEO Apologizes for 'Mistake'



    Did Trump apologized for CDC's mistake?

    NOPE! He instead blamed his predecessors

    “We did not screw up and I don’t think CDC screwed up either,” Trump said, again blaming difficulties in fielding a U.S. coronavirus test on a “system” established by his predecessors.
     
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    I don't know about you, but I do not have unrealistic expectations of the "system".
     
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    Perhaps you should want tota0l infe0ctions0 counted correctly
     
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    Examples of how we will soon find out how many people died of Covid19

    Rail fatalities in the U.S.

    2017......1,000
    2018......1,000
    2019......1,000
    2020...…500 ?????
    2021......1,000

    Republican response; 500 people were hit by a train, and died of Covid19.


    Heart attacks and strokes in the U.S.

    2017......1.5 million
    2018......1.5 million
    2019......1.5 million
    2020...…3 million ?????
    2021......1.5 million

    Republican response; Nothing wrong, It is what it is.
     
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    But he has no evidence, which of course isn't a shock as he rarely has evidence of the things he claims. Although he regularly has vague hunches that can often be propped up with sophistry and innuendo and I think that's whats happening here. The President is also a master of flip flopping in such a spectacular way that you almost forget he was ever for the thing he becomes against, or vice versa.

    For over a month we heard about his commitment to increasing testing, but when the testing kept showing that daily infections were growing he changed his mind and said testing was "overrated" and that doing "too much testing makes us look bad". But he and most every other GOP politician spent the last 4+ months talking about how infection counts were the basis for re-opening until only recently backtracking from that with some of them changing to statistic percentages because its easier to make those look better. Now it appears hes taking up a fight against the numbers themselves because its easier to call them a lie than it is to try and make them look better.

    And ya hes not alone in this, and that's a shame because its foolish behavior that is currently inspiring behavior that will directly lead to more infections and more deaths. Pres Trump is is putting his campaign image ahead of our safety. He's lost my vote.
     
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    Doctor's are on record saying they're pressured to put covid as cause of death regardless of whether it's confirmed or not.

    This confirms the death count is inflated. You can debate how inflated it is, but you can't debate whether it is inflated or not....because it's a fact that it's inflated unless you are calling all those dr's liars..
     
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    Sure, I guess in 1918, nobody actually died of the Spanish flu, because, you know, nobody tested positive. I guess they all died from the heart stopping to beat.
     
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    I am terrible at math.
    330,000,000 people in the US.
    100,000 dead from the Chinese virus
    What are my odds of this thing killing me?
     
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    According to the left...death could come at any second.
    Reality.....Unless you're at risk for some reason, the chance of it killing you is incredibly low.

    But.....the left has an election coming up and that takes precedence over pesky things like the constitution, the economy, people's ability to feed themselves, etc.
     
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    Guaranteed nowhere near as inflated as Dirty Donald's enormous ego.
     
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    Something like 60% of Americans over the age of 30 are at risk. And when they say 'at risk', they don't just mean dying. They mean at risk of moderate to severe symptoms and a protracted recovery. Even mild symptoms still require your entire household to quarantine with you until you test negative, which can be up to two months. That puts huge numbers of people out of the workforce, out of money, trapped in the home, and not knowing whether they'll be one of the ones who end up with permanent organ damage. This is the greater risk, actually. That vast numbers (lets not forget that nearly every sick person takes others with them into quarantine) will be offline for many weeks, all at the same time.

    To suggest that it's only a problem for the old and the sick, or that death is the only risk, is delusional - with respect.
     
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    Actually I blame China. China pretty much committed planetary Genocide.

    360,000 dead and still climbing.

    You leftists claim Trump has no power yet you sit here and blame him for a virus that is pretty much unstoppable.

    You clowns do realize that even with all the limited knowledge of this novel virus that it is still spreading right?

    Must be Trump's fault. :roll:
     
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    But your people are so determined to keep spreading it. What can any leader do when public compliance is so low? All they can do in such circumstances is declare a national state of emergency and shut everything down. Your leader failed to do that, and so it was left up to a non-compliant public. A public invested in the fantasy that it's just a little flu, and who think masks are stupid.
     
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    Wow.

    A lot of completely unverified numbers in your post. I can't seem to find anything even close to what you're saying. Surely you wouldn't just make up numbers so.....where'd they come from?
     
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    It's his fault to the extent that he should have seen the lack of public compliance and shut the nation down.
     
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    60% of Americans over 30 are overweight. I'm sure that differs from region to region, but apparently it's more or less accurate. When you add in things like Insulin Resistance and diabetes (both associated with overweight), and lack of exercise, and high fat high sodium diets etc - all risk factors for COVID .. it's very easy to see why risk isn't what you think it is. Now add in things like smoking and drinking (also both risk factors for COVID), and it just gets worse.

    So tell us again, who is at risk?
     
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    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...gations-discovery/assessing-risk-factors.html

    I was wrong....you did make it up. Not wasting any more time with you. I'm not enabling your fear mongering.
     
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    OMG get real. The Democrats flipped out for Trump just banning Chinese nationals from entering the country.

    Do you seriously think the Democrats would have gone along with a 9-11 style shutdown? :roflol:

    The gift of hindsight. :roll:
     
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    The Coronavirus and the Flu
    Distribution of deaths by age group, U.S.

    Blue....Covid19
    Black...Influenza and pneumonia, 2018

    upload_2020-5-24_22-49-40.png
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...rus-deaths-by-age-with-flu-driving-fatalities

    Crank stated; "Something like 60% of Americans over the age of 30 are at risk"

    It's actually 98% of Americans over the age of 30 are at risk.

    Thus, he hasn't inflated his percentage
     
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    Do you understand what a state of emergency lockdown is? At all?

    NO ONE has a say in it, and it's enforced via military and police (assuming people are insane enough to challenge it).
     
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    In reference to what______ inflated our death toll....

    Has anyone read NY's/NJ's Airport's monthly traffic report, FEB 2020?

    Well, I did!

    Unbelievable!......over 2 million UNSCREENED Transatlantic revenue passengers, and during the same time period, over 6 million UNSCREENED domestic revenue passengers, mostly from New York.

    Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Airport Traffic ...
    https://www.panynj.gov/airports/en/statistics-general-info.html

    Remember this;

    Florida governor orders all incoming New Yorkers to self ...
    https://nypost.com/2020/03/23/florida-governor-orders-all-incoming-new-yorkers-to-self...
    2020-03-23 · The Florida governor said he spoke with President Trump Sunday night about the influx of New Yorkers, but had not yet received any federal help curtailing the flights. New Yorkers who fly to...

    IMO, Trump's 2 weeks China travel ban PEANUTS compared to FEB 2020 Unscreened 2 million plus Transatlantic revenue passengers.
     
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    Odds increase dramatically against you the older you are, and the unhealthier you are.
     
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