Isn't it time you yanks grew up over your gun death epidemic?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Oz and the Orcestra, May 25, 2020.

  1. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    I think most of us would just laugh. Most guns are in the closet in our homes, and they'd need warrants to enter homes.

    I'm not sure that they can't get to the same place by banning ammo instead. Then I guess you'd have little smelters pop up in the country and make bullets under the radar. By the time the nonsense worked it's way through the courts, we'd have legally purchased ammo up to the ceilings.

    But I can't even imagine Sotomayor finding such legislation constitutional.

    And I should have said above that the 2nd amendment is repealed, though they'd need to repeal the 4th as well to be able to enter homes and start confiscating guns.
     
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    Lol...It seems that the only ones promoting violence are right wingers. The tin foil hat brigade has run amok.


    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article242971806.html#storylink=cpy
     
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    OK... so what did you mean when you equated 'defending ourselves from [violence]' with 'supporting [violence] by way of contribution'?

    Because that sounds precisely like suggesting that defending oneself from violence contributes to violence.
     
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    thats a euro in general thing unfortunatly
    50+% in jail in belgium is foreigners from outside EU, you can gues what they follow.
    dont even have room for our own criminals
     
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    Really? What percentage of our total murders are committed by white nationalists every year?

    Because blacks, who only represent less than 13% of our total population, commit 52% of the total murder in our country.
     
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    And of the remaining deaths 80% are gang related.
     
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    How many white nationalists kill people every year?

    If that number is less than 30 a weekend, then they've got nothing on the city of Chicago.
     
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    Could say the same about your boys and Catholic priests.
    Islamophobic rhetoric is a common deflection from talk of US gun deaths as is the very small increase in drug gang-related fatal stabbings in London.
    Since our handgun ban, it has been perfectly safe to send our children to school and we haven't had a school shooting in over 20 years. I wish you could say the same.
     
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    Use your head.
     
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    I already did. Seems pretty obvious to me that you meant precisely what I understood, that: defending oneself from violence contributes to violence, and now you see how ridiculous it sounds, but you can't think of how to alter the narrative you already established.

    But please, feel free to correct me by providing an alternate explanation/interpretation of what you actually meant...

    The ball is in your court.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ya' think so, huh?
     
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    You were proven wrong. Deal with it.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Until you come up with an actual response: yes.
     
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    It’s even worse than that. Black males who only represent 7% of our population commit 51% of the total murders in our country. The number one cause of death for a black male between the ages of 15-35 in the US is murder by another black male. For the rest of our country’s population murder is ranked the 54th cause of death.

    Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years with 10 killed and 39 injured in shootings

    By Amir Vera, CNN
    Updated 12:17 PM ET, Tue May 26, 2020

    Anyone want to bet the race of the 10 killed or 39 injured? Any guess on the race of the person(s) responsible for those shootings? I’ll give you a hint, they definitely weren’t White Nationalist.
     
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    You really call all these teenagers and barely 20 year olds that shoot up schools and shopping malls White Nationalist? Hell, the majority of them can’t even spell white nationalist. I call them rejected youngsters with little to no self worth who think becoming an internet sensation by shooting up schools and shopping malls is the way. Social media made it so important to have likes, followers, retweets, thumbs up etc. You can place 100% of the blame on the ever declining importance of family values.​
     
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    No, we have a criminal violence problem. The minute any person commits a crime with a gun, they are a criminal regardless of color. Singling out criminals by skin color is a small minded method. Acknowledging that those who use guns to instigate a crime is a criminal is the fact of the matter.
     
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    On the plus side no one here gets murdered with a sword in broad daylight like the UK.
     
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    Some of us are obsessed, most of us just grew up with guns and never think of shooting a human being.
     
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    And just imagine the murder rate if those thugs were actually proficient in the use of firearms. Only 51 kill shots out of 292 attempts. That’s pathetic. With a kill ratio of only 17.4% then not one of these hoodlums would become anything more than a cook in the military.
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    So a Brit comes here and in their first post attack our Presidents and falsely claims he told people to inject bleach

    And in his first OP thread attacks our country's Bill of Rights guaranty of keeping and bearing arms and then seems to have disappeared. I was going to remind him that we Americans revolted against his government when they tried to take our firearms, firing the shot heard round the world, and then resoundly defeated them. That a militia, the private citizenry prepared to bear arms in the face of a threat, being necessary to a free state thing it is necessary and vital that the citizens be privately armed and training in those arms should be not only be urged but I would make the case subsidized by the state governments. I don't think he has much standing nor ground on which to take make on this subject.

    And the gaul in light of the fact we told his government and his king to take a hike he says

    WE have to get inline with THEM who we not only defeated to gain our independence from them but had to save their arse's twice after we forgave them for burning the Presidents home. Bless his little heart he must still think we are the colonies. Maybe some in the UK never heard of the Revoluntionary and then when we did it again at the Battle of New Orleans.
     
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    I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt thinking he was just being ignorant of the PF rules. I understand why the Aussies come here, i.e., every day is a slow day down under, but one would think the Brits would actually have their own political issues to focus on.
     
  25. Oz and the Orcestra

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    To my mind it is irrelevant whether it is deaths by suicide, accident or homicide. All will be dramatically reduced. if guns are not available.

    The Bill of Rights was written at a time before the US had an organized police force and when wild animals posed a far greater threat.

    The Connecticut primary school massacre in which 20 kids were not just shot, but blown apart by a high velocity semi automatic rifle owned by the 20yr old shooters mother, a teacher at the school beggars belief. No doubt she was persuaded that her best defence against crime was to hold a mass of lethal weapons. Fat lot of good it did her.
     

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