Fauci says extended stay-home orders could cause ‘irreparable damage’

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  1. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe you should create a new thread about the guidelines. You seem to be really hung up on them. No one else is.
     
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    most States are open, but the people are not going out as they are still fearful, my State never closed, but it's still a ghost town out there

    the people have lost trust in our government, many feel Trump is more concerned about himself than the American people and would lie to them if he thought it would help himself - and I live in a Republican State
     
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    No, but you could have shut down the entire nation properly for a month, and you'd have nowhere near the numbers you have today .. nor the uncertainty, nor the risk, nor the confusion, nor the compulsory masks, nor the continued interruption to commerce, etc etc etc.

    You traded a few weeks of hard lockdown New Zealand style, for never-ending risk and uncertainty.
     
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    Not here, my little tourist town was kickin' today. Lots of people out and about.
     
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    This is America. We do not have a dictator. Governors made their own decisions. How much freedom are you willing to trade for a little added safety?
     
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    Why do you speak as though it's history? Your cases are increasing by 20,000 a day.
     
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    hospitalizations are down, many hospitals sit empty
     
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    when did yours start to pick up?
     
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    I'm sure that sounds reasonable in your head.

    Meantime, how much am I willing to sacrifice for the good of the nation? As much as our forefathers did during WWII, or the wives who stayed at home and took on all the work, plus all the parenting, plus all the food production ... and all on strict rations.

    No one called it 'dictatorship' then, and it isn't that now. It's what any grown-up nation does in an emergency. Chaos is the worst possible response to poop hitting the fan.
     
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    Trump has not convinced most republicans to go back to work yet, let alone democrats

    essential workers been working throughout from both parties.... they should have been getting hazard pay
     
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    did Trump not make businesses make stuff for the crisis, it's a bit of a dictatorship during a national emergency

    Trump is just a bad leader, so many did not follow him
     
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    Plausible deniability.

    If the governors open the businesses, and we have a big resurgence of the disease, then Trump can blame it on the governors.
    If the governors open the businesses, and things aren't too bad, then Trump claims it was all his idea.

    It's how Trump works.
     
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    Cases don’t mean hospitalizations. More testing = more cases.
     
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    more testing = more case... if more cases exist
     
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    Some last week and much more this week. It looked and felt more like a spring weekend as I drove through.
     
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    TDS patients probably think Trump forced him to say that.
     
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    Everybody has been wrong on this virus, Fauci included. When I get new information that contradicts my action plan, I change direction. What do you do?
     
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    Do you blame President Wilson for the Spanish Flu?
     
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    *sigh*
    I don't blame Trump for the Covid-19 pandemic.
    I do assign Trump responsibility for how the White House has handled the RESPONSE to the pandemic.
    What's so hard to understand about that?
     
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    Trump did what the CDC recommended. He flattened the curve with a shutdown. Do you fault him for that?
     
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    Yet. Do you want there to be?

    The SARS epidemic was as much like this as any other pandemic is likely to be though it was much less contagious and that is this pandemic's uniqueness. Bush the Younger handled that just fine
     
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    After about a month of dithering and delay and the most important part, the testing, STILL isn't being done. The whole idea of these responses is TIMING, they MUST be done immediately or thousands will die, as they have in fact.
     
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    Dithering? Trump instituted a China travel ban before any other country and did what the CDC asked him to do to flatten the curve immediately.
     
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    "Much less contagious" are the operative words here.
     
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