Human Free Will Responsible For D rowned Children In The Genesis Flood.

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  1. Robert E Allen

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    That's ok Christianity doesn't deal with blind faith..

    Science being the study of the natural world is distinctly incapable of understanding the supernatural.
    Studying God via science is as stupid as using religionn to study the natural world..
     
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    Christianity absolutely deals with blind faith;
    blind faith is the norm for anyone who follows a religion.
     
  3. Robert E Allen

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    Wrong!!!!
     
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    So other than the claims of some people in an old book, what else do you have but blind faith?
     
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    Besides the claims of some people in new books what else do you have but blind faith?


    Funny how almost everything in that old book written by 35 different people has actually come true, funny how we have more ancient documents from the bible in greater numbers than all other ancient texts combined all of them with no disagreement.
    It is the most scientifically verified document in history. If you are going to believe any book ever written, you have to believe this one. I'd call it peer reviewed but God has no peers.

    Science has no authority to make any statements about religion as it is entirely unqualified to do so, it is utterly ignorant on it.
     
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    Non sequitur
     
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    You mean a you don't like sequitur.
     
  8. Cosmo

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    If you don't know what non sequitur means, consider expanding your vocabulary.

    Being able to communicate effectively is a very important life skill.
     
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    I know what a non sequitur is.. i just don't agree that what i posted was one.
     
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    Its the spiritual equivalent of yoga. Focused contortions on purpose.
     
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    Which is obviously the case with those who suffer from the fiction that evolution is 'established fact'. Thanks for admitting that it is indeed 'magical' to its proponents.
     
  12. Cosmo

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    Seriously?
    In one paragraph you claim that the Bible is "the most scientifically verified document in history".
    In the next you said "science has no authority to make any statements about religion as it is entirely unqualified to do so, it is utterly ignorant on it."
    You can't have it both ways.
     
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    No, it only occurs in countries where mixed marriages occur. Asians and whites never pop up in African villages among africans, nor do negroes just pop up in Chinese families or marriages between Norwegians.

    So you know it's nonsense we all came from the same little monkey village in Africa somewhere, yet you can't really make any sense of it all.

    My opinion is the bible stories are allegorical and written on many levels; and they don't have to please you personally. As for where all the assorted groups come from, it's obvious they all developed separately in different parts of the world under different environmental influences. Not that hard to see.

    So you're admitting you haven't done much studying on anything. We already noticed that. Are you asking for some help in lessening your ignorance and fear?
     
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    Thanks for sharing your argument from incredulity.
     
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    We know you pseudo-atheists can't do it, but all we need is for you pagans to demonstrate your chain of evidence for 'evolution'. you never do, you just post rubbish excuses for all the gaps, and of course you have no real rebuttals of the mathematical improbabilities of all those genetic mutations that need to occur, etc. Your main snivel is just the theology that frowns on mindless self-indulgence and assorted fashionable sexual deviancies, not any nonsense about 'rationalism ' and 'science', i.e. the same whining idiocy your communist propagandists and sociopaths have.
     
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    Science illiterates and conspiracy theorists often opine on things they know little if anything about.
    Carry on.
     
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    Yes, i can have it both ways. 1 the study of the history of the bible can be proven scientifically and has been. It is the same test today in english as it is in ancient Hebrew aramaic and Greek. The bible as it exists today is a scientifically proven document.

    It's the meaning and application of its contents are however spiritually discerned and scientific is unqualified to do that.

    Therefore i get it both ways.
     
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    I have not made any claims you have.
    Demonstrably false.
    Circular reasoning.
    Not mentioned science once in this thread, I have no idea what you are going on about.
     
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    That's because you're only relying on science if it fits your narrative.
     
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    Science tries to figure out the mechanics involved in the universe created by the computer man has called God. It is the source of our virtual reality.

    Top men have said so.

    Physicists like tom campbell.
     
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    But, according to the Christian doctrine, children were born with original sin, eventually requiring the ceremony of cleansing Baptism before being suitable for heaven.
    Begs another question, where was the domain of souls before they were born into children... and at what point did they become imbued with original sin? What happens to the souls of children killed before being Baptized?

    I have always been curious of the when, who, and where of the flood. The flood myth pre dated the Bible in the writings of the Sumerians by hundreds of years, so who was the real Noah?
     
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    Sure that a Bibles exist can be proven. But, it can also be shown the text among the variants has been changed many times over the last couple of millennia not only because of translations from earlier versions but because language and meaning has changed, often requiring interpretation and inference of meaning inherently viewed through the cultural biased lens of those manually copying and reproducing the various source texts, where some of the scribes may have been Clintonites (“I didn’t have sex with that woman”).
    Humans are supposed to be imperfect, often prone to sin, yet in the various generations of scribes we are supposed to believe the Bible was perfectly, faithfully transcribed over thousands of generations. That isn’t faith in a God, but faith in imperfect, sinful humans.
     
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    The bible was created using all the literary instruments.

    An ancient flood was used to teach humanity important order producing values and morals.

    Along with hebrew history. And. used for the evil of our hearts. To justify such evil.

    So when one says god told him to do it. ..run like hell.
     
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    If it's demonstrating false then demonstrate it..

    It's only circular cause you don't like it.
     
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    Hmmm wonder who else might be doing that...???
     

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