There Is No Evidence That Voting By Mail Gives One Party An Advantage

It's not folly. The REVERSE is true.

You simply cannot make it harder for people to vote because YOU feel they are not qualified to vote. Now, if you are not trying to make it easier, you then, by default, are trying make it harder. If we do not do everything we can to encourage a full and robust turnout in the vote, if we do not do this, we are, in actual point of fact, making it harder. There is no middle ground on this point.

If you are so concerned about 'uniformed' how about making all voters take one semester of civics in a local community college before they can vote?

Just imagine the ACLU on that one, though i'm not impartial to the idea.

Hey, I, as in ME, I personally believe anyone who voted for Trump is ignorant and uninformed.

So, according to YOUR logic, I SHOULD promote the idea of limiting voting in rural areas because that's Trump country.

Yes, that is the flip side of your argument.

Your logic, really, is not logical at all. Your position is not just illogical, it's insane.

Really, it is.

 

Why not?
Yes, I do expect a rational reasoned answer.
Silly, right?

 

So they say, but dems of today were not the dems of yesteryear. If that were true, African Americans would still be wiht republicans.

Something changed, so I can't say much for your link

I didn't say there was a clear cut reversal

What is true is that the parties of today were not the parties of yesteryear.

IF they were, African Americans would be voting with the party of Lincoln.

Well, the republicans of today are so far removed from the party of Lincoln, that the actual party of Lincoln has branched off and formed their own group.

https://lincolnproject.us/news/the-urgency-of-defeating-trump-falls-to-all-of-us/

What they are saying is that if you were a true Republican, the kind of whom Lincoln would approve, there is no way in hell you could support Trump.

As for LBJ, future people who believed in the civil rights legislation, because it was headed by a democrat, people who believed in liberal policies started flocking to the democratic party and since LBJ, the soul of the democratic party has changed to the liberal side of the spectrum. It didn't happen over night, but it did happen.

Evidence of this "change", which IS quite the reversal since the days of Lincoln, is that most of the legislatures in the south are controlled by Republicans.

If you look at the GOP platform mid 50s, it reads like a liberal manifesto.
Here's an excerpt of the 1956 platform

That just isn't who the GOP is today, they've shifted so far to the right, well, they are literally off the spectrum.

This idea that you can compare the parties of yesteryear to the parties of today is fallacy.

 

What I said is true and totally logical. Would want people who never watch movies and have not watched the nominees vote for the Academy Awards? They would be throwing darts. Same with people who are clueless about government, the candidates and the issues. Why would you want to go into a voting booth and pick their choices at random? No one has said anything about making it harder stop with the canard. Why should we encourage people who don't even know who is running to vote? And no I can't force someone to take a course in anything talk about totalitarian, I would hope they had by the time they become voting age but we see less and less of that happening. You can believe what you want but they voted for Trump because the DID know him and about him and his issues.

 

And neither are the Republicans of today but the Dems still have far more in common with them. Populist of today still generally find their home in the Democrat party.

 

There is very little evidence of voter fraud on anything beyond a minuscule scale. Objectively, the measures being proposed by Republicans would be much more effective at discouraging legal votes than they would be at preventing illegal votes. I'm sure these Republicans have the best intentions, but rationally speaking, they support efforts that discourage legal voting all in the name of preventing a much, much smaller number of theoretical illegal votes that are practically non-existent.

Reason is fun.

 

I completely agree. It's not that team red has moved more to the right. The entire country has, really. Obama is to the right of Reagan.

 

Yeah, wanting someone to prove they are who they say they are discourages legal voting....in an alternate universe.

 

In what world what it not result in a depression in legal voting? What is your reasoning?

 

There also wouldn't be any evidence of people exceeding the speed limit if there were no police to enforce them.

 

The implication being that there are no enforcement mechanisms.

Which is childish, and absurd.

When Republicans in Virginia were trying to pull a fast one, the judge asked to see instances of voter fraud. They didn't have a single one. It was pure politics.

 

If you believe there is zero voter fraud, then I have a bridge to sell you.

Even though there are instances of it proven, its extremely difficult to identify as there is very few mechanisms to identify it.

 

Fact remains, there was no investigation to find voter fraud as Liberals are saying. It never happened.

 

No need, it's been done many times before. I mean, if these guys can do it, why can't the Prez, he's a billionaire, right?

Sounds like a quitter, if you ask me.

The following is only scratching the surface, I can provide many more studies, on request

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...le-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/
https://votingrights.news21.com/article/election-fraud/
https://votingwars.news21.com/voter-fraud-is-not-a-persistent-problem/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ts-cast-in-the-2016-election-were-fraudulent/
http://www.projectvote.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Politics_of_Voter_Fraud_Final.pdf
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/elj.2013.0231
https://www.gao.gov/assets/670/665966.pdf
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/10/29/the-voter-fraud-myth