Conservative double standards regarding law and order

When it comes to black people and the police, conservatives are very clear that black people should just do what the police say, follow orders and comply.

but when it comes to wearing a mask, social distance and keeping a store closed to prevent the spread of a pandemic, they think the patriotic thing to do is resist resist resist.

How does this work?

why is it that if a black person does not fully comply with police orders he should expect he might die......but it's totally okay to resist and reject rules regarding protecting society from a pandemic?

Someone please explain this to me.

 

If a cop were to be point a gun at me and tell me to put on my mask.......no matter how out of bounds I believe his demand to be...I AM GOING TO COMPLY WITH HIS ORDER. There is a time and place to hash out the constitutionality of his actions, and while at the point of a gun is NOT that time. Discretion is ALWAYS the better part of valor.

Its not about black or white. Black, white, red, yellow, green, or purple, if a police officer has a gun pointed at you and tells you to raise your hands......you better raise your hands. If he tells you to twerk, you better start shaking that a$$. This is not rocket science. My momma did not raise a fool.


PS The race baiting seems to be out in full force today. There must be an election on the horizon.

 

Who's said don't social distance? you should, and who's said don't wear a mask when interacting closely with the public? WHy can't businesses open that do all that?

The difference is one is dealing with law and order, and the other public health.

Well...not just black people...if you are a dick to a cop, it's likely not gonna be a good outcome from you.

 

How do you people come up with this with this stuff? Is there a site that provides these things?

 

As should people of any race.

Because the economy is more important than the virus. What does resisting the loss of one's business have to do with doing what the police say?

I'll put it simply. The worst way to fight a pandemic crisis is to create another crisis.

 

White privilege?

 

Perfectly said.

 

Not just Black people, everyone. The best way not to get hurt by police is just obey the orders he gives you.


When it comes to masks, we can't get the same information from experts. First they tell us we should wear masks to protect us from the virus. Then they tell us wearing a mask could do more harm than good. Then were are told masks won't protect you from getting the virus and then they say it will help not spreading it to others. A little difference between the two.

 

So a black man not wearing a mask, a white man 3ft away from him , and a Jew , follow 12 other Jews in NY city carrying a Rabbi in a casket to a funeral ceremony

NY police wait for instruction by the Non mask wearing Mayor DeBlazio and the Non mask wearing NY Governor Cuomo sitting beside each other at a press conference of people also not spacing themselves and only half wearing masks

This wise conflagration of cluster fks will order NY police to:

1. Shoot or choke hold to death the black man
2. Beat up and arrest the white man
3. Run the police car to disperse the Jews carrying the Rabbi
4. Leave a ticket on the casket of the dead Rabbi for violation of being buried during lockdown hours

 

People should follow and obey reasonable, proper and lawful police commands. People should resist unreasonable, improper, and unlawful police commands. Black, brown, yellow, or white have nothing at all to do with it.

 

Fixed it for you. Just as many white folks are killed by police as black, if not more. Stop making it about race. It's not. Remember this, there are a lot of black cops too. Are they racists, against their own race? It's about the danger a police officer faces when a suspect resists and starts fighting, skin color means nothing if your in fear of your life or someone elses. Most cops handle this correctly, and the proper amount of force is applied. Sometimes they don't. Could be a bad cop, could be a bad set of circumstances, whatever. But to declare that cops are out there killing blacks is just utter nonsense. They kill whites just as much, and you don't see that all over the news.... why is that?

And yes, if you don't resist arrest, guess what, you live to fight another day. Perhaps in court. And if you're wrongfully accused, you might even win some money out of it. All this, regardless of skin color.....

 

Easy, you have tightly held stereotypes and you apply them without pause.

First cite these supposed "conservatives" who said that man should have expected he was going to die.

 

Exactly. Especially if you know your abuse by the police is being caught on video.

Even if the police are out of line, just roll with it so that you are clear from any fault. Once you are away from their custody, then find a lawyer and charge them for abuse. If you fight back against the police at the time of the confrontation, no matter how in the right you are, you will lose, because you will have justified at least some of their actions against you.

 

Well for openers such things would have to have actually been encoded as a law to date the wearing of masks social distancing et Al have not been passed by any legislature anywhere. This makes them not laws but the whim of dictatorial mayors and governors.

 

The Law and Order President saved the "Butcher of Mecca."



Trump bragged he helped Mohammad Bin Salman Al Saud after the dismemberment: “I saved his ass,” from Congress. “I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop.”​

Trump boasted he helped Saudi Crown Prince ‘cover up’ brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi: Woodward book

 

As has already been pointed out when a cop gives you a lawful order and you refuse to comply, it is you who have escalated the situation not the cop. This is true with out regard to race creed or color. I will say one other thing as well, if you are above average size, and the cop is not you are damn near volunteering to be shot.

 

Don't forget cops carry a gun. You can be right all day long but it is the courts that assess that not the cops and arguing with the cops Won't help and being right and dead, doesn't might enrich your relatives but you ain't spending any of that money.

 

I agree. When I said people should resist unreasonable, improper, and unlawful police commands, I didn't say how that resistance should be done. It is alright to resist the officer at the scene as long as it is respectful and not pushed too far. Otherwise it has to be done with police leaders or in a court.

 

This is what lie enforcement really thinks of most American people. Some police officers I have known were just smarter than the average criminal viewing the world as a dichotomy between the "winners" and "losers," or the "little people." It is easy to defeat the little people with a modern military urban arsenal, and the powerful celebrate this fact.

"These ANTIFA and BLM people, especially the ones who just jumped on the bandwagon ‘yesterday’ because they became ‘woke’ (insert eye roll here), do not deserve a second glance or thought from us. Our little pinky toenails have more character, morals, and ethics, than these punks have in their entire body...Do not stop to their level. Do not respond to them. If we do, we only validate what they did. Don’t make them important, because they are not....They will be the ones washing our cars, cashing us out at the Walmart, or living in their parents’ basement playing COD for their entire life.”--Maj. Bridget Hallahan, who led Louisville Metro Police Department's Fifth Division.

Deckard:
"I don't work here any more. I quit when I came in here now. I am twice as quit now."​

Det. Bryant:
"Stop right where you are!
You know the score pal!
IF YOU'RE NOT A COP, YOU'RE LITTLE PEOPLE!"

(Isn't that the ****ing truth.)

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Speaking of which ‘Serious dereliction of duty’: Unveiling unredacted FBI report, Raskin raps Trump administration for ignoring white supremacist threat in law enforcement.

Raskin (D-Md.), chair of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform’s Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, published the unredacted document (pdf), titled "White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement." At one point the report reads,

"The FBI saw long ago the multiple potential dangers associated with violent white supremacy and its efforts to infiltrate local law enforcement with ideas, attitudes, and personnel....Unfortunately, the FBI’s recent refusal to acknowledge and combat this threat under the Trump administration—just like its refusal to appear today—constitutes a serious dereliction of duty.”-- Rep. Raskin.

 

For years I have consistently said that you should always do what a cop tells you to do and if you believe that the cop told you to do something illegal, or you believe the cop did something wrong then you fight it out in the courts. Not there in the street. That is WHY we have a court system. If you want to protest in a peaceful disorderly fashion (in this situation, not wearing a mask), then fine, do it...but accept the consequences when the cops come to arrest you for that disorderly conduct.

 

Of course. Resisting is not only illegal, it is dangerous. If one wants to push back at police, the time of arrest is not the time and place to do it.

The masks are harmless. Wearing them is not a big deal. Shutting businesses by government is authoritarian and stupid. More than 60,000 businesses have closed permanently so far and the jobs are gone as well.

Explain what? Comparing apples to oranges has no meaning.

 

One would never have known that the way Biden's been nearly invisible until it was time for his Weekend at Bernie's at the debates. Racists trolling for like-minded replies? Libs trolling for conservative racist replies? Ignore either. A chump's a chump's a chump. Or clear your throat. Have a say and watch them bleed.

As for common sense, liberals see an unholstered weapon, they think lawsuit. Everything else gets crowded out by visions of wealth from suing over brutality and trauma.

 

To protect and to serve....
Fired Orange County Sheriffs Claimed They Didn’t Know It Was Illegal to Lie on Reports

 

It would be very hard for our corrupt failed criminal justice system to convict anyone if police and prosecutors did not fudge the truth and hide exculpatory evidence. Massive reform is needed

Nevertheless, voters can replace their local sheriffs.
Police Departments, and their appointed commanders exist primarily to serve and protect the interests of the entrenched corrupt ruling political class.