If COVID proves anything, it's that doctors can't be trusted to be truthful

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Over the past few months, we've seen Fauci contradict himself in statements regarding masks. To wear a mask, to not wear a mask, we've seen media stroke fear into the masses when recovery is more likely than death with COVID judging by the evidence presented by the ratio of cases to deaths in the US. We already know governors have lied to our face on local and national television, we are now realizing that medical professionals too are losing their credibility on this virus. The fear over this virus has destroyed business and indivudal careers alike. To return to normal, we will need to tune the doctors out and confront the fear head on.

    Assemble in large gatherings, because only when we start doing that even without a vaccine or clearance from the state, will people of all races and ages snap out of this paralysis the lockdown has put them in. It took me a few weeks until I could catch on to Fauci's lack of credibility, I lost trust in the CDC with the delay of declaring COVID a pandemic, I'm smart enough to know this isn't nearly as bad as it seems at the surface. My suspicions proved correct, and I believe most here are capable of coming to the same conclusion.

    I didn't trust doctors before this pandemic, I definitely don't trust them now. Trust is fragile like a dry leaf, and now COVID has ripped those leaves to shreds.
     
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    Experts are supposed to alter their recommendations when approached with new data on a novel situation. That's a sign of why you should trust them more, not less.
     
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    Is that what happened? The CDC suddenly got brand new information about masks?
     
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    ...yes
     
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    So masks, which have been around for more than a century, were a source of great mystery to the medical community until a month ago?

    And this is why you think I should listen to "experts?"
     
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    Fauci is in a damned or be damned situation. "Experts" are now politicized, mainly because of our media.
     
  7. MrTLegal

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    No, masks were not a great mystery, but the benefits of the general public wearing a mask was weighed against the risk of medical professionals not being able to get access to a necessary amount of masks and the risk outweighed the benefit. As time went by and healthcare professionals were able to obtain their required equipment and the research regarding asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread became more abundant, that risk-benefit analysis tipped the other way.

    Is that really so difficult or shocking?
     
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    Anyone who doesn’t kiss Trump’s ass every second of every day is a liar.
     
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    In other words they lied to us about the effectiveness of masks for ulterior reasons.
     
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    You are just confused.
     
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    No, they are learning about this virus.
     
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    No, they made the best recommendation they could based on the information they had at the time.
     
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    What we have here are a bunch of people who lack even the most elementary information about the virus, who are all die-hard righties.


    What a shock.
     
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    They didn't get more information, they got more masks. Before we were discouraged from wearing them. Now it is mandatory.
     
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    The trouble these days is that any time Joe Sixpack doesn't understand something, instead of looking to actual experts, he leaps to some bs conspiracy. And the rw media is making a fortune feeding his frenzy.
     
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    They do not provide protection from the virus. But they help to reduce spread by about 50% if the person wearing it is infected. This is a function of this specific virus, which is new and needed to be evaluated.

    Beyond that, there was a shortage at first and medical workers took priority. Anyone watching the MSM knew all about it.
     
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    Hopefully you realize that the rw media lies about the MSM constantly.

    If not, that is an Introduction to Sanity 101.
     
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    A **** translation is a **** argument.
     
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    Once again we have the same people trying to make the perfect the enemy of the good.

    Nobody said that face masks were perfect guards agains Covid. They said that masks REDUCE the amount of virus carrying saliva drops that people exhale, thus REDUCING the chances of transmittal.

    What in the ****ing hell is so difficult to understand about this?

    We walk into a restaurant that requires shoes and shirts for health reason and for the comfort of the other patrons in the business. Why are some conservatives lighting their hair fire over adding masks to that list?
     
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    So is the use of vulgarity.
     
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    It isn't. And I don't see why this kind of bs is allowed here.
     
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    Is it? Well too bad because I don't ****ing feel the need to elaborate on why a **** translation is a **** argument if you don't ****ing feel the need to actually respond to the merits of my actual argument.
     
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    They definitely do provide protection from the virus, if used properly and together with other PPE. Health care workers don't just wear them on the off chance they might already be infected. That's absurd.
     
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    You ALWAYS protect your first responders and front line personnel in a crisis. Only a fool/sociopath would suggest otherwise.
     
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    Sure, but don't lie to people about the effectiveness of masks.

    And I was just told that masks don't protect the wearer of the mask but those near the wearer of the mask. If this is so I would think that the patients ought to be wearing the masks, not the nurses if the idea is to protect the nurses.
     
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