Black man dies after video shows officer kneeling on neck

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Choose: 6 months in prison or one stroke of the cane.
     
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    Horrible.

    The cops need to crack down.

    The cops should have never let that destruction happen last night.
     
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    Conservatives, did you forget, was only a few years ago

    "Armed men, led by Bundy brothers, take over federal building in rural Oregon"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-take-over-federal-building-in-rural-oregon/

    "BURNS, Ore. — A group of armed anti-government activists remained encamped at a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon on Sunday evening, vowing to occupy the outpost for years to protest the federal government’s treatment of a pair of local ranchers set to report to prison Monday."
     
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    The police answer to the mayors office. Limited force.

    Are you currently watching the footage?

    Another innocent car dealership is getting cars spray painted.

    Do you think the owners of all of these businesses, homes, churches, and vehicles will be happy with the message the looters are sending?

    The Mayor needs to step up, ask the governor for the National Guard...unless someone has a better plan.
     
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  5. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Correct. And the police can stop this kind of rioting with minimal use of force.
    Effective riot control has been available for decades. Why do you suppose violent street mobs are still tolerated?

    “ • Antitraction Technology: Teflon-type environmentally neutral lubricants that make footholds or traction exceedingly difficult
    • Sticky Foam: Incredibly adhesive foam that immobilizes individuals
    • Anesthetics: Tranquilizers, dispensed with gas or darts, that could put people to sleep
    • Infrasound: Low-frequency sound generators that incapacitate individuals by causing nausea, disorientation, and bowel spasms
    • Microwave Transmitters: Directionally oriented devices that heat skin to an unbearable degree as people approach them
    This list represents only a portion of the new nonlethal riot-control technologies.”

    http://strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/parameters/Articles/96autumn/stanton.htm
     
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  6. David Landbrecht

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    There is no excuse for looting in this situation. To excuse is an insult to any human intelligence that could be ascribed to any group. Theft is not protest. Not that property is more important than protest. Destruction is one thing; personal gain is another.
     
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    Many better ideas for dealing with riots have been out there for decades.

    “ • Antitraction Technology: Teflon-type environmentally neutral lubricants that make footholds or traction exceedingly difficult
    • Sticky Foam: Incredibly adhesive foam that immobilizes individuals
    • Anesthetics: Tranquilizers, dispensed with gas or darts, that could put people to sleep
    • Infrasound: Low-frequency sound generators that incapacitate individuals by causing nausea, disorientation, and bowel spasms
    • Microwave Transmitters: Directionally oriented devices that heat skin to an unbearable degree as people approach them
    This list represents only a portion of the new nonlethal riot-control technologies.”
    http://strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/parameters/Articles/96autumn/stanton.htm

    Corrupt, violence prone police under the command of corrupt politicians will always eventually be used to incite riots.
     
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    There are no excuses, but their are reasons for such social disintegration.
    They are seldom discussed.
     
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    The video that has been released is all you need to see. What happened before does not matter. Yes, maybe he did resist arrest. BUT, once he was handcuffed and on the ground it is over. Now I assume most of you good people are law abiding citizens who have never had the pleasure. of being arrested by the police. When they handcuff you they put your hands behind your back.So to get a feel what I am talking about here you going to need to use duct tape and tape your hands behind your back and lie down on the floor. I am not saying you will be unable to get to your feet but i ask you, in this position how much of a threat would you pose to someone. I guess you could still kick them with your feet. So when the officer is asked why did he put his knee on his neck, I wonder what he will say? He feared for his life? The guy might run away? This isn't the first time we have heard someone say they can't breathe and died from being strangled. Ive seen all i need.Unless you can show me why you need to strangle a guy who is hancuffed and on the ground
     
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    No. There are not hundreds every month. Plus, you have to define "these cases". Cases where the police officer clearly used excessive force to the point where most people would agree that it's murder, like Mr. Floyd's death are extremely rare and do get national attention.

    There may be a few dozen cases per year (not hundreds) where police shoot/kill a civilian where the case doesn't get national attention because there is question over whether the police action was justifiable or not (or because the victim was not black and the story didn't play into a strategized political narrative).

    Case in point. Police shot a man in my city last month for disregarding officer commands, getting in his car and attempting to flee the scene. They shot at the car, hit the man and he died. No national news story, and no buildings in my city were burned to the ground. There were some small peaceful protests. Officers were responding to a call saying a man was "doing drugs in his car with a gun". No gun was found. The man ended up dead for resisting search and/or arrest.


    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/us/austin-police-shooting/index.html
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yes, the police parking lot houses NEEDED squad cars and some have weapons in them....a liquor store isn't quite that "necessary" to defend.



    ...and WTF does that have to do with the post of mine you quoted?

    The owner of the pawn shop may have broken the law....
     
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    What link are you watching?
     
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    Salvation Army as a security guard. True.
     
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    Well, a bystander also said the same thing around the same time. So... you're saying they're both just lying during the incident?

    Sound theory, and definitely doesn't sound biased. Lol

    Nobody was. That's why he'll be charged.

    And that's why he'll be charged. So the justice system will play out like it's supposed to.

    But were still going to burn the city down and snag a few TVs, yeaa yeaaaaaa!
     
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    I think most of the general public can watch the video and agree with that. This is police brutality. It shouldn't be a partisan issue, but of course, was immediately turned into one.
     
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    Remember it was Trump who admonished the police for their gentle treatment of suspects. Things won't change until we get his knee off of America's neck
     
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    Youtube TV. It's an alternative to cable. Watching IMMO. It's still live.

    Right now they are discussing the shooting death by a pawn shop owner and a looter.
     
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    Still relevant as ever.
     
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    I know. Trump gets credited blamed for all sorts of things which appear to bestow him with omnipotent, almost god-like powers. Anyone who is able to have such total control over nature (like viruses) and all sorts of externalities (like cops shooting people) should be president. Oh, wait. o_O
     
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    Yikes! I was with you up until the caning bit! :eekeyes:
     
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    Everyone who has a brand new TV from Target which they didn't pay for? Just one example.
     
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    A church was burned, cars have been torched and spray painted, and many businesses and small businesses have lost a ton of money from looters.

    Bunch of animals they are.
     
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    Thinking: How much cash they could get from a pawn shop for the TV, or how much drugs they could get in trade for the TV They were thinking, "Now I can watch reruns of The Golden Girls every day on CMT cable channel, like I've always dreamed about doing."
     
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    Infantile you didn't see tape of officer putting all his weight on suspects neck for 9 minutes.
     
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    Infantile you didn't see the tape of officer putting all his weight on suspects neck for 9 minutes until death.
     
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