So, You Don't Believe In Noah's Ark? Guess Again!

you haven't addressed it. you hand waive away the evidence and simply declare that evolution is a religion, while providing zero scientific evidence to support your claims.

and when you make statements like this, you show you have no knowledge of or business speaking about anything science related.

The ToE is of course not a religion, the same way the theory of gravity isn't.

you need to first learn scientific terminology, before you can even begin to comprehend the basics of science.

 

Argumentum ad ignorantiam.
Calling it a religion is absurd.
Scientific evidence is evidence that serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical evidence and interpretation in accordance with scientific method.
All you have done is express your opinion. You have presented no conflicting evidence whatsoever.

 

It doesn't have to be millions of years ago. The age of the Earth is unknown.

 

When your intent is to deny and obfuscate well demonstrated , evidence-based work, it helps to introduce as much noise and confusion as possible. It's something those in the anti-science crowd excel at.

 

The age of the earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old. Why would you claim we don't know the approximate age of the earth?

 

We have no idea what it was like. We weren't there.

According to The Bible, no.

We don't know that. We weren't there.

Mhm.

No we don't.

 

Are you 4.5 billion years old?

 

I have no idea what you think this question has to do with the fact that we know the approximate age of the earth?

 

Ignoring my argumentation does not make it go away.

Evidence is NOT a proof, dude...

Evolution (itself) is not a religion. Evolution (the theory) IS a religion. There is no accessible, practical, quantifiable, specific null hypothesis test for it.

Already answered the "scientific evidence" bit... numerous times... Go back and read what I've said.

Your issue, not mine.

False Equivalence Fallacy. Gravity is NOT a theory. Gravity is a force.

Your issue, not mine.

You need to first learn the basics of logic before you can form a valid and coherent argument.

 

your argument is an argument from incredulity. You need to provide evidence to refute the science you've been given.

this is another hand waiving of the evidence.

it is by definition, not a religion.

except for the accessible, practical, quantifiable specific null hypothesis that has been and continues to be tested.

Ive read it. You are not qualified to speak about matters regarding science, because you don't even know the basic terminology. You have provided zero evidence in support of your denial of science.

It is not my fault you don't know what you are talking about regarding anything science related.

see? you don't know what basic logical fallacy terms mean, let alone scientific terminology. There is of course the theory of gravity. Just like there is the theory of evolution.

not knowing the meaning of basic scientific terms is most certainly your issue.

I've schooled you in basic logic in every exchange. You don't know the basic terminology of either logic or science. You have no business discussing topics related to either.

 

Using Latin does not magickally make you any smarter. YOU are the one making an Argument From Ignorance Fallacy, not me. YOU are the one trying to prove your religion (a Circular Argument Fallacy), not me.

Argument of the Stone Fallacy. Labeling arguments as "absurd", without providing any counter-argumentation, is also a fallacy. I've explained (in my link in post #211) the logical framework behind both religion and science.

Science does not make use of supporting evidence. There is also no such thing as a "scientific theory". There is just "theory".

Science does not use supporting evidence.

All you have done is express your opinion.

You're right. I've instead presented you with logical proofs that contradict your position.

 

How do you know what happened 4.5 billion years ago if you [1] weren't around when it happened, and [2] don't, at the very least, have any historical records as to what happened during that time?

 

so you have no idea how dating methods work. Figures. Again, you have no business discussing anything related to science.

Please educate yourself.................https://www.ips-planetarium.org/page/age

 

You have presented squat.

 

The faulty logic behind that is the assumption that unless something in the past was observed and recorded there is no evidence.

 

I'll give you an example. I used to watch Dutchsinse, who just happened to notice that magma in the earth follows a certain path. From this he has been able to predict most earthquakes within a 7 day time frame; the approximate size of the earthquake; as well as within a 200 mile radius with a 96% to 98% accuracy. He's an uneducated person, yet he's been doing this for about 10 years to the chagrin of geologists who fought and insulted him every inch of the way, since it went against what they knew.

They have been driving him crazy, and even pushed him off Youtube many times. Yet his accuracy has been proven and they prefer to see thousands die from earthquakes, then accept that they can be predicted and warn people.

When so called experts see fish fossils on mountains, did they ever think outside the box of political correctness, and question the accepted belief about the mountains being 2 million plus years old - and that maybe, just maybe they were not mountains a few thousand years back?

Anyway, just a few things to ponder.

 

Of course not. It was created yesterday and we are all yet figments of imagination in a creators mind. You want to dismiss science, geology etc. Do so. Look up 'Luddites'.

 

Your ' politcal' correctness is known as science, geology. If you don't accept it then you are stuck in 'religious. correctness. https://earthsky.org/earth/mystery-of-indias-rapid-continental-drift-eurasia

 

Your so called experts became experts by engaging in understanding of the fish in mountains mystery by deviating from the PC explanations of the time and began to develop an understanding (and continue to do so) applying from knowledge from many, at the time, emerging science disciplines (geography, geomorphology, stratigraphy, Linnaean taxonomy, comparative anatomy) and in more recent times, physics, plate tectonics, etc.). Over time, a picture began emerge that provides a consistent, coherent theoretical framework of understanding, one that is continually being expanded, tested, and confirmed that is a hugely robust model of understanding.
Fossils of sea life has been observed in mountains for centuries. Among many Bible following theologians, it was interpreted to be unarguable evidence of Noah’s flood. That was the best explanation for the observed evidence, but the vast amount of scientifically accumulated evidence and knowledge models provide far better basis for understanding than the myth of the Bible, itself based on an earlier Sumerian myth.
That multiple floods occurred in the flood prone Sumerian Cultural region of Mesopotamia that may have been the catastrophe of the Sumerian myth have been substantiated by Archaeologists, but there are conflicts in both the dates and geographic extents for identifying the basis for the Sumerian myth account. But then, those accepting the Bible on faith don’t need scientific corroboration.
To suggest that the mountains weren’t there a few thousand years back.... we’ll... enough said, there is no basis for rational discussion.

 

To Each His Own!

 

I quoted Nikola Tesla who gave us 80% of the 'good' things we enjoy today. Uhhh, who is that Kalam guy? (I'm only joking!)

 

MY GIFT TO THE PARTICIPANTS OF THIS THREAD (A bit of humor here, don't take it to heart).

I'm Greek, or at least ethnically, and as you know they were highly creative. Unlike others, they gave human form to that which they idolized, whether it was war, love, beauty, sports, wisdom, etc. So to remedy a grave injustice towards our forum secularists, and that they may have a visual perception of their own beliefs and desires, I'm giving you your very own:

GREEK ​

GOD OF SCIENCE


I am the god of Wisely,
who know-est all
of what you see.
So this is why I ask of thee:
"Please worship me." - Jeannette



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How dare you claim my throne.
Beware I don't turn you to stone.
My wisdom is vast
Your wisdom won't last
Then where will you be - alone.

Athena.