NBCBLK Man blocks black delivery driver in Oklahoma neighborhood

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you did you wouldn't have made your previous statement.
     
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    Nope. It was not private property of that racist idiot who harassed that truck driver. It's property owned by the community.

    For all you know. The owners, who the trucker worked for, did not want his nosy racist good for nothing neighbor to know what that trucker was delivering... when he is driving around on the property of the community.
     
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    I sourced it went way up under Trump. You proved nothing... and are making personal attacks.
     
  4. struth

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    It went way up under Obama he started a trend. Mass shootings as well.

    sorry you feel attack. The truth can do that to people
     
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    It is private property owned by the private property owners whom he represents, until you get that fact straight nothing you say has any bearing.
     
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    It is one's, a property owner and more precisely they elected official, business what a truck on that property appearing to be lost or roaming is doing and do they have permission to be on that private property and the easiest way to show that is to flash your delivery papers, if not then you stand to be delayed until it can be ascertained what you are doing there. It was NOT a PUBLIC street.
     
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    And you better be able to show it.

    From Crime Doctors

    "
    Support by the residents and management is required to maintain an effective gate system. Management needs to educate the residents about how the proper use the gate system and how to report abuse and damage. Management needs to screen residents and enforce community rules to prevent criminal types from residing on the inside.

    Residents need to report or challenge unauthorized persons using the gates and not give out gate codes unnecessarily. Management needs to periodically change the master gate code to screen out former repair vendors, zillion pizza delivery companies, and former residents."

    https://crimedoctor.com/gated-community/
     
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    Let's see the trespassing statute you think was violated.
     
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    He was clearly arrested. You seem to think that the arrest was justified. IMO, it was not.

    “Arrest
    An arrest is using legal authority to deprive a person of his or her freedom of movement.”
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/arrest
     
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    Sorry but no and trying to inflame it serves no purpose. Just as if an officer stops me and ask to see an ID I am not under arrest.
     
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    How does my post inflame anything?

    Whenever an officer, or anyone else, restrains anyone's freedom of movement an arrest has occurred. An officer's mistake may, as opposed to a citizen's false arrest, my be protected by the doctrine of sovereign immunity
    Surely you know that.
     
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    Using the term when in fact the man was not trying to arrest him which would have ramped it up. It was a simple and reasonable request.
     
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    he was leaving the scene of a crime on private property
     
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    Sorry you are not sourcing your claim.
     
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    Was Obama labeled white African American by the left?
     
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    How do you know?
     
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    It was not reasonable to restrain his freedom of movement - it was an arrest.
    Americans do not have to respond to reasonable requests.
     
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    #blacklivesmatter
     
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    So a man saunters into your home, is it reasonable to restrain his freedom of movement?

    Your freedoms do not include the right to not respect the property rights of another. Inside a gated community (private property), nobody has the right to freedom of movement except the residents. If this were not true, people would be wandering onto Bill Gates estate whenever they felt like it..... not sure that would turn out well for them. This has its roots in English Common Law and is one of the bulwarks of Western civilization. It is being eroding quite rapidly right now for everybody except the gilded class. Cases like are an exemplar of that erosion. These are very dark days for America, the rule of law is being systematically demolished as our civilization crumbles.
     
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    he fit the description according to the citizen making the arrest on private property.
     
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    No need too...it’s common knowledge
     
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    Is it your position that the delivery man was a trespasser?
     
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    IOW, you are admitting that an arrest was made.
     
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    My position is that it is the ABSOLUTE RIGHT AND PRIVILEGE of a private property owner (or their representative) to establish whether an unknown person is on their property legitimately. Property rights are the basis of Western civilization and the middle class. At one point in Western history only the elite had property rights. I see this case as an abrogation of that right for the middle class (while still remaining ABSOLUTELY inviolable for elites) and yet another step backwards. If this would never and could never be a controversy for the gated communities of the elite, it should never be a controversy for the gated communities of the less affluent. It is not lost on me that it is the elites pimping this story through their MSM proxies and I do not appreciate it.
     
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    So, do you admit that an arrest was made?
     

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