What is wrong with Minnesota?

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  1. PanMonarchist

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    I hope the looted businesses close up shop and never return to the city. The public has made it clear they don't want these businesses there.
     
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    Target is not rebuilding their total loss store in Minneapolis. Target says fts.
     
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    I'm not one to easily buy in to conspiracy theories but this does make me wonder. And then to top it all off, the left seriously wants to dump this in Trumps lap. I've seen several posts like that just on this site.
     
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    Given that street riots can easily be stopped by police with minimal use of force it is fair to conclude that these riots are being encouraged by the governments in charge of the involved police forces.
     
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    It isn't Minnesota....racism is rampant throughout the US...GEE GOSH did ya happen to notice there are protests going on all over the country....or just turned a blind eye...
     
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    The local governments are responsible. Riots cannot happen without the tacit support of government.
     
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    Oh ffs, making this into a party issue is stupid. This goes way beyond this. It is a human rights issue and your petty statist party bickering only demeans yourself.
     
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    It's all about politics and governments. "Statist" parties rule the states and cities.
     
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    Racism has always been rampant in America - and the world.
     
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    Leftist "gangsta" culture.. that's what we are seeing.
     
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    Why are poor black men getting killed in blue “utopias’, thought you guys were better than everyone else?
     
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    The gangsta rap has brag about killing each other with guns and dope and it's glorified by the Hollywoodites. What you feed grows.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    It isn't Minnesota....racism is rampant throughout the US...GEE GOSH did ya happen to notice there are protests going on all over the country....or just turned a blind eye...



    So you quoted my post but didn't read it....

    What "Utopia' are you going on about....no one ever claimed there was a "utopia"....why make things up...don't have a good argument ??
     
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    True and to single out a specific state or country is the height of STUPIDITY...
     
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    Minnesota has bad liberal leadership. They sympathize with Antifa and the other goons who are looting and burning.

    If you're a taxpayer and you expect leftist government to protect your property from crazed mobs, you're an idiot.
     
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    Spot on.
     
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    After all the looting and burning, minorities still wonder why companies are hesitant to do business in those areas.
     
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    Oh please. The U.S. is the most tolerant nation on Earth.

    Good luck in finding a better place.
     
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    Minnesota is covered by a glacier every winter, or so I'm told "Forty below keeps the riff raff out," goes the saying. Works for me too.
     
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    We live in America. Wake up.
     
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    Anyplace can have fires. These riots won't raise Insurance rates one penny as they are a covered hazard. You do business in a place because it has customers with money. If some people are scared off that's just more opportunity for someone else.
     
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    Insurance companies can raise rates on covered hazards. It happens all the time. It's all based on the degree of risk, and operating in minority neighborhoods is risky.
     
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    But they won't, not here and not for this reason. If they start burning down the stores every other year it might tick the actuarial tables one point after a decade but probably not even then. Riots are like storms, they happen and **** happens is why there is insurance.

    You don't see some stores in some areas because the people there don't have any money
     
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    Minnesota is the Whitest state in that there is a higher percentage of people with blonde hair and blue eyes than any other state. Between the Civil War and World War 1, the US had opened up immigration to Scandinavians, including the Fins. Unlike other European immigrants who made their to America by way of Ellis Island and New York, the Scandinavians landed in Minnesota and spread westwards from there. As many as half the citizens of Minnesota have some Scandinavian ancestry. There is a reason their professional football team is called the Vikings.


    Probably due to the greater part of the population having had arrived in the US after the Civil War had ended, Minnesota is one of those states that has long had laws that are friendly towards Blacks and other minorities, resulting in a migration into the state by minority migration and foreign immigration.


    The thing about the police is that whereas conservatives cheer strong police action, liberals are abhorred by it. In an ideal liberal utopia, there would be no police. Half of the Bill of Rights concerns police action. If your Civil Rights are being violated, it is more likely than not that it is a law enforcement officer who is doing the violating. Police action is one of those sometimes necessary evils, not something to be desired or necessarily celebrated.


    It is one of those things. Conservative rhetoric is always trying to accuse liberals of authoritarianism, yet bring up the subject of police action and see who the real authoritarians are.


    Typically, across the country, the more red a jurisdiction, the more harsh the police tend to be and the more strict the courts. The more blue a jurisdiction the more lax the police tend to be, and the more lenient the courts.


    There is another interesting pattern. Protests tend to be tolerated in liberal cities in much the same way that odd ball cultural minorities, tend to be tolerated. But you rarely see those protests in the Bible Belt much in the same way that you don’t tend to see a lot of tolerance for odd ball cultural minorities in the Bible Belt.


    Seems to be a correlation to voting. When I was a young man, an older mentor type used to say, “If you don’t vote, you don’t have the right to complain”. Turns out, in those states that most tolerate protests, the rate of voter participation tends to be higher. And in those states, typically red, that don’t, the rate of voter participation tends to be low. Places like Minnesota, Colorado, Oregon, and Washington, where it is relatively easy to get a permit to hold a protest march in their major cities, voter participation is twice the rate of the Bible Belt. But then, dark red states do have a well earned reputation of suppressing the vote.


    It may be, that in many blue states the people are more likely to vote and to protest, because they know that their government will be responsive to the will of the people. And that in red stares the people don’t protest because they know they will be met with a harsh police response and many don’t bother voting because they know the government makes it bothersome to vote and will continue to ignore them, regardless.
     
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    What is wrong with Minn. Too many people voting for democrats on all levels in the state, for too long.
     
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