The CDC Released New Death Rate Estimates For The Coronavirus. Many Scientists Say They’re Too Low.

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  1. Rugglestx

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    You Dodged the question.
     
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    Even with the continued push of fear mongering of the media people are adapting. Sure is fun to watch it piss the lefties off so they in turn try more fear mongering! :)

    Now we are getting the “more dead than reported” BS and “just wait till the next wave!!!” Threats...as their dire predictions turned out to be so incredibly wrong.
     
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    It's a process, as we get more information we improve the models.

    If we follow your line of reasoning, that implies we need contact tracing (which would need a lot more testing) to improve the models further.

    That would mean a national effort to dramatically increase testing. We would also need to build a contact tracing system which could then use that information to get a handle on both the numbers and the disease.
     
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    You put your children in a car knowing full well a horrible accident that kills and or disables them for life is a distinct possibility. Most of us are developing the same attitude with Covid. Life goes on and you accept the risk involved instead of hiding in your house afraid to go out into the dangerous world.
    Also remember the vast majority of Covid deaths are in the high risk group so if you are young and healthy your more likely to die in a car wreck than from Covid.
     
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    U.S. hospitals are losing millions of dollars per day in the midst of the Covid-19 pandemic — and recovery may take years
    PUBLISHED TUE, MAY 5 2020 6:02 PM EDT
    UPDATED TUE, MAY 5 2020 7:15 PM EDT

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    Your link cherry picks causes of death to make Covid look worse than it is.
    Heart disease still kills more people than Covid in the US.
     
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    We don’t have a clue because the ceo running the country is a griffer and a fraud. All his cabinet positions which manage the country are literally, under political control.
     
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    As mordy and mordy testing is getting done faser an faser the death rate is going to continue to decrease and decrease.
     
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    Keep up to date mate

    That is the point

    100,000 deaths since February
     
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    Spellcheck attack?
     
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    Best way to crash a boat - surround the captain with yes men
     
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    It's like when the swallows came back to Cupertino.
     
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    I have to say that is an amazing indictment of the American healthcare service

    No wonder they had to discharge patients to nursing homes due lack of available beds

    A co-ordinated system would ensure that resources were spread across the system

    A further truth is that this virus has the potential to break the system

    Who will pay for the sick covid patients?
     
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    LoL the 2500 bed Javits center wasn't even used.

    No hospital system in the US was strained by Covid, not even in NY.

    It seems they spent most of their time making Tik-Tok videos.
     
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    As usual, non believers miss the Whole point. The virus is overwhelming hospitals. They are caught between being short of staff and bringing others in for treatment then contaminating them. You may not think dying patients is an issue for you, but it is in hospitals. These people require the most expensive and difficult care and have the least money money to pay for it.
     
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    No the point is your link was attempting to say Covid is now the leading cause of death which it is not. Heart disease and cancer still reign supreme.
     
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    Myth busted.

    U.S. hospitals are losing millions of dollars per day in the midst of the Covid-19 pandemic — and recovery may take years
    PUBLISHED TUE, MAY 5 2020 6:02 PM EDT
    UPDATED TUE, MAY 5 2020 7:15 PM EDT

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    • Hospitals have seen revenues flatline during the pandemic.
    • That's because they have delayed non-emergency medical procedures during the spring.
    • The financial situation could be bleak for several years, medical experts say.




    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/05/05...-of-dollars-per-day-in-covid-19-pandemic.html
     
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    You missed the point entirely. Hospitals thought they would be overwhelmed by Covid patients so they stopped all elective procedures in anticipation of this even that never occurred. Instead they sat empty. Just in the last week have they opened for regular business.
     
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    Where are hospitals being overwhelmed? Have documented examples?
     
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    Result of lockdown: Hospitals not being overwhelmed.

    Conservatives: Lockdown was bad because hospitals did not get overwhelmed.

    Which world do we live in?
     
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    Conjecture.

    And like your other “predictions” never occurred.

    No surprise the “reason” you say is because of the lockdown you endorsed.

    Wonder how much you will take ownership of that lockdown as the economic carnage it will cause occurs...
     
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    I live in the real world and in that world hospitals nation wide sat empty as fear mongers claimed they were being overwhelmed with covid patients.
     
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    So, you think hospitals would not have been overwhelmed without the lockdown? What's your evidence? You realize that this is conjecture too.

    But, that's the beauty of those scenarios. Without the control experiment (i.e. having the pandemic play out without the lockdown), nobody can tell for sure, Therefore, both sides can claim that they are correct.
     
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    Yet there is only one reality, the reality in which the lockdowns happened and we're going to enjoy the long term financial consequences therein. And it was the Left who wanted the national emergency declaration, it was the left that forced the stimulus spending by the governor shut down actions.

    The Left owns it all, in the eyes of independents and conservatives. Even if Biden is elected, all that means is that we now have a democratic President we can pin it on.
     
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    Political Science = Fake Science = Fake News.

    The death stats have been fudged.

    "Colorado health officials on Friday changed how they count the number of people lost to the coronavirus outbreak in the state.

    As a result, the state's stated COVID-19 death toll dropped by nearly 300 people who had contracted the virus but died of other causes that may or may not have been related to infection."
    COLORADOAN, Did Colorado's coronavirus death toll really just drop by nearly 300? Here's what changed., By Eric Larsen, Editor, Fort Collins Coloradoan, May 16, 2020.
    https://www.coloradoan.com/story/ne...-coronavirus-deaths-state-counted/5198485002/
     
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