World uneasily watches US protests

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From here: World uneasily watches US protests but US racism seen before

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    Still, in China one can suddenly "disappear" if found criticizing the Ruling Class. Which does not (yet) happen in the US ...
     
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    In the US the President just obliquely accuses you of a crime to ruin your reputation or business.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who has had their business ruined by Presidential accusations?
     
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    Google.
    I know because righties here say they won't use it anymore.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess I was expecting you meant people, not corporations... but ok, what did the President say about it?
     
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  6. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The present version of PotUS, yes.

    Typically, that does not happen. In public ...
     
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    No, here we have the ANTAFIA and BLM using the criminal actions of some police officers to tear into the very fabric of our society. We have these terrorist organizations conducting and inciting terrorist actions against business that have noting to do with these police officer's actions. This is no longer about Freddie Grey. His family is calling for an end to the violence. They have said that Freddie Grey himself would not have supported these terrorists (my word not theirs) acts. Yet, they are still going on, and are spreading to other cities. The lootings, arson and even murders are not in the name of Freddie Grey. They are in the name of the DNC anarchist establishment.

    It looks to me that the DNC has realized that they can not control the US as it is now. So, they are supporting the destruction of the entire country. They have spoken out against the President's statement that the US military will meet force with force, but they are not saying anything against the agitators that are inciting these terrorist activities. The DNC know who they are, and are not calling for their arrests. As a matter of fact, Biden's campaign are working to get these agitators out of jail. Omar was on ABC this morning trying to explain why these protests are getting out of control, but she never mentioned agitators. She never called for them to be arrested. It is long past time that ANTIFIA and BLM members were arrested as being terrorists. It has been a long held SCOTUS opinion that the exercise of free speech is not absolute. You can not yell fire in a crowed theater when there is no fire. That is what these terrorists are doing. They are inciting agitated individuals to loot, burn and even kill in the name of their protests. They need to be held accountable for the actions that they incite.
     
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    Or is that just what the fake news left-wing media has claimed he has done?
     
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    Why should the Democratic National Committee support the "destruction of the entire country".

    Because some anguished people (mostly unemployed) are showing their angst in public?

    Ya gottta be kidding ...
     
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    This post is hilarious since you site the wrong victim.
    I guess they all run together after a while. :)
     
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    Last nite, there were 5 people from outside the state. Which isn't to say there aren't agent provocateurs, they could be doing their illegal acts and running away. But there isn't much evidence yet. Reporters with sources in the FBI are saying some of them are White Supremacists. They always want a race war.

    But the more basic point is that Black communities have several legitimate grievances. The other point is that there aren't enough people trying to calm the situation. Trump's rhetoric is inflammatory. The police in Minnesota have been escalating their actions.

    Your rhetoric is inflammatory.

    We can get through this without a lot of dead bodies on the ground.
     
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    It's a silly game not worth playing.

    BS against BS - everybody loses. And the general public doesn't even pay attention.

    Too much BS is too much - most intelligent people just change the channel when they see it ...
     
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    I guess the fake-news left-wing media has not told you about the DNC members and leadership meeting with the heads of ANTIFA and BLM. You have not heard their words of support as they exercise censorship of conservative speakers, and committing terrorist actions. How the cheered when BLM protestors marched calling for dead police, and claiming pigs in blankets smells like bacon. It must be heartwarming to turn a blinds eye to the DNC.

    Why do they need to support the destruction of the country? I made that point in my post. They have found that they can not control this country the way it is. STORM failed. The Cloward-Piven ideology has failed. The left-wing media has been called out for the fake news sources that they are. They have lost their media market shares. President Trump is going to be reelected, and the DNC may keep control of the Congress, but it will be by such a small margin that they will have to work with the opposition. If the trend is allowed to continue, they will eventually slip to a third party status behind the GOP and the Libertarian parties. The only way forward for the DNC is through civil war. Which they will lose of course.

    Further, it is disingenuous to link these riots, arson and murders to legitimate protests. They are the result of opportunistic terrorists using the protests for justification for terrorist activities. This current riots have nothing to do with Freddie Grey. To claim otherwise is to spit on his grave. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this.
     
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    My mistake. I stand corrected. George Floyd. But the same was true of Freddie Grey, Michael Brown, Trevon Martin. and on and on. None of the violent protests that broke out after a tragic shooting have had nothing to do with deaths. They have everything to do with terrorist groups attacking the nation.
     
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    Maybe in your crowd. But amongst my friends, no matter their race or political belief, they are noticing and back my statement. They have noticed it also. So, keep playing ostrich like a good liberal, and leave reality to the rest of us.
     
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    Strange, I can only find two articles that support the claim that white supremacists are behind the violence, but they cite the Minnesota head of Public Safety. Not the FBI. Further, the claimed is based on what people have told them, and not actual observations. If white supremacists are behind the violence, then they should be arrested and prosecuted also. I support the end of violence no matter who is involved. But let's not forget that members of the KKK endorsed Hillary Clinton, and donated to her campaign. To claim that all white supremacists are conservatives is not supportable. After all, the Nazi's were National Socialists not conservatives. But you can say that all ANTIFA and BLM members are backers of the DNC. Those are facts not rhetoric.
     
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    Doyou know the difference between ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.
     
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    They want to destroy the country in order to rebuild it according to their ideas.
     
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    I think it's the on and on you mention that have them stirred up. :)
    This one seems a little different for some reason. Maybe it's because nobody has to be at work in the morning and they still have some Trump bucks in their pockets.
    But it's kind of like the red necks standing on the capitol steps screaming at the cops. It's a self correcting problem.
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    Youtube has been bringing to my tv the reaction of black Americans to the below song. They are all almost in tears. They say he is singing the truth about life and claim it is even worse than when Elvis sang this. I do not think it could be worse but it is obvious the US has not done what people marched for, black and white together in the 60's. Black people have not been given equal rights and given that I heard Trump threatening them and also being threatening to the left as fascists always are, looks like it is getting near being as bad as the past and that is really saying something. You cannot continually abuse a people and not expect a reaction. What is interesting is that oppressed people around the world have been getting together and supporting each other in their fight against it.

     
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    See, you follow the rhetoric and not the facts. This picture is misleading. It looks like this person is screaming in the face of these officers, and that is what the fake-news left-wing media has told you. But that is not what is happening. The man was yelling at an officer that was standing behind the other officers. The man had been seen the officer use force the previous day dragging a woman out. He was yelling asking the officer whether he was willing to try that with him.

    Follow the facts not the rhetoric. Never assume that the fake-news media is telling you the truth. Always research the facts for yourself.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...r-isnt-known-white-supremacist-la/5171781002/
     
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    A distinction without a difference. And still self correcting. :)
     
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    So, a person can not challenge a police officer that drags a white woman from a protest, but it is alright for people to protest the killing of a black man by a white officer. Frankly, I find this a distinction with difference. And again, you misstated what the picture was showing. The man was not yelling in the face of anyone. The picture shows a man yelling, but the media has told you that he was yelling in the face of the officers shown. In fact he was yelling between the officers, at another officer that had assaulted a white female protestor the previous day. So, again, this is a difference with distinction, and obviously not self correcting. A lie is a lie!!! Stop posting lies!!!
     
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