Democrat Cesspools Descend Into Chaos

We have a country which has a long history of racial injustice. That is then coupled with neoliberalism, ensuring economic deprivation. Now the Dems didn't deliver that. At worst, they should be accused of being too right wing. For not doing enough to combat the right wing authoritarian personality. For not pursuing social democracy and the equity it generates.

I have a question which is more pertinent to the current crisis. Do you agree with Trump that the violence is due to anarchists? Alternatively, do you agree with the researchers into riots that pinpoint police brutality as the key mechanism driving violence?

 

I see police brutality as a excuse for those attacking other people without power, and police brutality as the key mechanism for those who are actually protesting police brutality.

 

When I was a nipper I got caught up in a football riot. It wasn't difficult to work out what happened. The police horses charged, knocking folk left right and centre. A couple of fans were trampled and had to go to hospital. That one incident was the incendiary device. United by a sense of injustice against their fellow man, it kicked off.

None of this is new. Previous riots have been studied and explanations delivered. In particular, effective police action designed to avoid sparking off further violence is designed. Indeed, such effective action has been seen in numerous areas where rioting has been avoided. We therefore have to ask us why some police forces have ignored it. That needs studying. I doubt Trump's tweets help. Indeed, it surprises me that the opening poster attacks the Dems and therefore really gives a free pass to the fascism that is increasingly visible in the US. Of course anti-fascism is terrorism nowadays isnt it?

 

If you’re referring to the gaggle of idiots who call themselves Antifa, no I wouldn’t go as far as to label them terrorist, they’re to inept, and hilariously feeble to be domestic terrorist. Just spoiled upper class white rich kids that virtue signaling, and usually get themselves beat up.

 

We know that in the US terrorism is skewed towards the right wing. The point isn't to refer to Antifa, but how the US President has deliberately ignored that reality. You should be generally concerned about a government that is so blasé about fascism.

 

Don’t forget how the capital protest in MI was such a reckless spread of covid that surely those protesters are all attempted murders!!!

Sure is a good thing that Covid is gone now, or else all these rioters and looters would be spreading it. Funny how that has not been mentioned at all. I haven’t heard boo about covid for days now. Weird. Guess it’s ok to get together en masse again!

 

My point exactly I didn't blame conservatives for anything. I blame those on BOTH sides that are unwilling to talk/listen and defuse this problem. You are the one that is assessing blame.

 

I think you have your perception of fascism kinda of distorted. Because we’re not close to being fascist, most certainly corrupt without a doubt, but to slow and unwieldy to ever be considered fascist

 

Blinded by nationalism, dictated by the reactionary dictatorship of finance capital? We'd struggle not to refer to it...

 

Democrats are responsible for what happens in the cities they control.

And the cities they control are impoverished, crime-ridden cesspools.

Democrats are the biggest failures in political history.

They took American cities that were at the pinnacle of civilization during the 1950's and slowly destroyed them over the course of decades.

 

Detroit used to be an automobile powerhouse, now look at the sorry thing.(Having lived there, the decline is very real. Though they're trying to get it back up for what it's worth.) And to give them credit, they're like the only police force not playing around with these internet wanna-be rebels.

 

Did any one of the COVID protesters burn a car? Actually, let's make it better: Did they break in to even a single store? If you can find a link that shows either of those things, I'll gladly recant.

Those monsters, and the people who wanted to go back to work, etc are two very different breed of people. What you are doing here actually is gaslighting.

 

The riots are all taking place inside cities that Democrats have controlled for decades.

The police officer that killed George Floyd was a unionized, government employee that is funded and regulated by Democratic city councils and boards.

So the question remains: Why is so much of the racial injustice, economic deprivation, and police brutality localized within cities controlled by Democrats? Must be a coincidence!

As for Trump, I do not pay attention to him or his rants, so I have no opinion on his comments in any case.

 

In the very recent cases of New York(De Blasio) and Minnesota(the governor's daughter) this is freaking literally a true statement. Brats with too much time on their hands, George Soros funding, etc has created a one of a kind vagabond sort of army against the US.

The pay isn't even that good!($200 dollars according to one twitter poster).

 

I've been speaking out against police abuse and government fascism for years. I now speak out against the wanton and indiscriminate destruction of private property for the same reasons.

 

ROFL. You think this Plutocratic State is a Fascist State? You really think that? Hint 1: Where's the centralization of government for efficiency? It isn't there, it doesn't pay to be efficient. Where is the pro-American sentiment(and I don't mean religious sermons masquerading as some sort of sentiment.). The very EXISTENCE of these riots proves there's no Nationalism.

While there were mostly political operations(to domestically murder their enemies), before WWII, the idea of a German, Italian or Japanese citizen destroying their own cities and towns was unthinkable. The Nationalist sentiment in those citizenry's wouldn't have allowed it.(Nevermind the government.)

If this were truly a Nationalist government instead of tweeting about firepower, Trump would have actually authorized it.

No, you live in a Plutocracy. The Wealth isn't even in the hands of the politicians, but in the lobbyists practically buying them out and you think we're in a Nationalist State?

 

Where did George Floyd get killed?

In a city controlled entirely by Democrats

Who killed George Floyd?

A unionized, government employee.

Who funded and regulated the government employee that killed George Floyd?

City councils and boards that are controlled entirely by Democrats.

Clearly, this is the fault of Republicans.

 

Right - and Red is not the party of division at all

 

What is wrong is you are committing the sin of omission. I would claim bad law/legislation is at the root of the problem - law/legislation for which Red and Blue are both culpable.

 

Except local governments and law enforcement agencies have broad discretion over which laws they enforce and prioritize.

Republicans have certainly helped in crafting horrible legislation, but the decision to aggressively enforce those bad laws lies almost entirely with the local authorities (Democrats).

 

So what is the logic here - bad law is OK - so long as it is not enforced ?

The fact of the matter is that both Red and Blue aggressively enforce these laws ... and both Red and Blue Establishment is in favor of aggressive enforcement.

Example - The purpose of the war on drugs was to limit essential liberty - given the police more power. It is not some secret that power corrupts and more power corrupts more. This led to asset forfeiture - the proceeds of which went into the pockets the local department.

If that is not a conflict of interest - I am not sure what is. What you are claiming is that "Blue" Police and Blue officials were the only ones using this legislation - and this claim is simply false.

The leadership cities are more often Blue - at the top - but the bureaucracy underneath consists of both colors.

 

And the people who suffer are the poor, who now:

1. Have nowhere to shop
2. Have lost their jobs
3. Have lost their businesses

Democrats are glad to arrest you for daring not to wear a mask or for daring to open for business when they tell you not to.

Democrats are also glad to stand aside and let you burn down the entire city.

This is who they are:

Democrats are the party of crime, despair and poverty. All things that give them more power over you.

 

That's not what I'm claiming.

 

My bad if I mischaracterized what you said - it seemed to me like you were putting the majority of the blame on Blue.