How would you deal with the rioters/looters plauging America?

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How should America deal with the present rioters?

  1. Accept the US is Somalia/Madmaxville for a while and it will burn itself and everything else) out

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  2. Make some gesture of appeasement and reconciliation and appeal to their better natures.

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  3. Don't know

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  4. Load up, load up, load up, with rubber bullets!

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  5. Rubber bullets are for wimps, Frank Castle has the right idea

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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    I have every sympathy with peaceful protest even if I think it's misguided but once it turns to rioting and looting my sympathy goes out the window (something the African American population might want to ponder, Barack Obama, Frederick Douglas, Colin Powell, Harriet Tubman Rosa Parks and MLK did not strive and suffer for this!).

    So, how should America deal with this?
     
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    The riots are a separate issue from the protests. To lump the two together is a convenient way to disavow the protest's intent.

    Rioters and Looters need to be seen as the criminals they are and action needs to be taken. Unfortunately, what we saw last night was an outnumbering of rioters to police. So force has to be increased and rioters need to know - in no uncertain terms - that they will be treated as the criminals they are. And the police need the support of the public to enforce it. No one should tolerate or enable rioting and looting.
     
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    Looters and arsonists are criminals and should be treated as such. IIIRC, the British police had some success at tracking down some of the more egregious criminals during the riots of a few years ago.

    Peaceful protesters should be left to peacefully protest within the limits of public safety.
     
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    Deploy the roof Koreans.
     
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    Fire hoses
     
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    Tonight in Minneapolis there needs to be a Zero Tolerance policy for anybody on the street after curfew.

    In all other cities that are affected, there needs to be a strictly enforced curfew.

    Obviously, the Cops need to use any force necessary to restore order.

    This CAN NOT be allowed to continue.
     
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    America should real with this by practicing equality and fairness among ALL her citizens.
     
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    We do that already. Probably better then most countries.
     
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    Send out drones with special high detail cameras on them and coordinate/pilot them with police officers both remotely and close by. Coordinate these with existing fixed monitors in the stores, on the streets and planes from high overhead. Take pictures of all the looters looting from 20 feet above and/or as close in among them as they can safely go. Use everything feasible, even satellite photos. Tie these in to computers with face recognition software. Put the identified pictures on tv with announcements that law enforcement will be going after all of them though some might be given leniency for cooperation in finding those not identified by the software and turning in all their loot along with making restitution for damages. Later put the trials of all the looters caught on television as well.

    At the same time arrest the other 3 cops and announce extensive inquiries into why this incident happened in the Police Dept.
     
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    There are many Black folks who would disagree with you.
     
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    My thought too. Rioters are not standing up for a cause like the protesters. Rioters are just petty thugs using the chaos as a screen to steal ****. They won't hit places with armed defenders. Not for long, at least.
     
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    Right. And I disagree with them.
     
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    a mix of the last two dependent on the persistence of individual looters.

    long jail terms and paying for their own medial bills for injuries received from police action
     
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    You mean like a police station? :roflol:
     
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    The rioters would've been mowed down if the cops had been ordered to defend the station. Instead they're told to evacuate to avoid the bloodshed. The cops are neither homeless nor jobless if the station is destroyed, so they have little reason to kill to protect it unless they're ordered to. They'll just tax us to build a newer and better one.

    Not similar at all to someone defending their home, neighborhood, private business or livlihood.
     
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    Depends on the crime. You can't even be prosecuted for most most 'political' crimes in the US but just being accused is as good as a conviction with sexual misconduct, particularly if it even hints at involving minors.
     
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    I will use my clueless ne'er do well friends to out smart the corona virus in all its forms. How hard could it be wish me luck.
     
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    No, we don't practice equality. And no matter how African-Americans want to protest it is frowned on.
    When Kapernick took a knee, certain people didn't like that.
    They don't like peaceful marches. They don't like people who speak their minds.

    How should African-Americans protest?
     
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    82 Airborne on the ground with 750 troops near DC with 10 Blackhawk gunships and four transports. 6 days too late, but finally.
     
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    Are you serious? That's terrible.
     
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    but the issue for most is not their skin color, it's their financial class, poor whites have the same issues

    this is an issue both whites and blacks should come together on

    now there are some whites and blacks that have an angry demeanor, those people will always have more issues in society, being raised poor can give people a chip on their shoulder they may never escape sadly - humans can be mistreated, just like animals when they are children and have lasting effects
     
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    On an individual basis, with force proportional to the threat posed by and actions of the 'rioter'. So everything from a polite 'hey please get off my lawn' to lethal force if faced with the threat of same. To help contain control a riot/looting situation (as opposed to a peaceful protest) - jam or shut shut the cell phone network down in the immediate vicinity (assuming the technical and legal capability to do so exists) Secondly use spotters to identify and take out ringleaders/instigators. Because therein lies the real problem. Even an ostensibly peaceful protest by a few thousand plus demonstrators can be turned into a riot by 10-50 people with malicious intent. There's been a lot of work done on the psychology of mob violence that confirms the importance of this last bit.

    And its a key problem from what can be observed on TV. Most of the protests that became violent started at a peaceful/law abiding demonstrations then turned violent later. This indicates the majority of people present didn't want the violence to occur (at least as first). It's also telling that a lot have turned violent after dark when the wolves in sheep's clothing creep out of their holes and make use of the cover provided by the demo for personal gain.
     
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    In a mixed crowd where rioters and protesters mingle, how are you to tell them apart? You cant watch, everything each one does.
     
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    The difference between poor whites and poor blacks is that violent gangs thrive in urban black neighborhoods, preying on kids.

    Poor white neighborhoods have higher then average crime, burglary, theft. Urban black areas have higher then average violence, shooting and murder. Gang intimidation is a big problem for black communities. Sometimes in the worst areas its hard to find witnesses to a murder when a crowd saw it..

    Things are not equal between poor blacks and poor whites. The nature of the crimes will be different and thus outcomes when the police are called will be different.

    I actually live in one of the poorest zip codes in my city, majority white. Dealing drugs and meth is an obvious problem. The closest dollar general to me is broken il into on a regular basis.

    Regardless there are poor but hardworking families that can afford to live in this zip because housing is cheap, and they can still raise their children in a reasonably safe environment and the schools are safe....because violent gangs dont infest this area or the schools.
     
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