Systemic Racism: An Irony

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  1. Xyce

    Xyce Well-Known Member

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    On July 5, 2011, police officers brutally beat a homeless man with schizophrenia to a bloody pulp. Days later, that homeless man was dead. Officers involved in the beaten were charged. For all the officers, the charges were either dropped, or they were found not guilty.

    Where were the protests? Where were the riots? Where was the nationwide crackdown? Where were the rioters smashing windows and assaulting people? Where were the rioters surrounding Obama's White House? Where were the rioters picking a fight with the cops at CNN? Where was the systemic call for justice against police brutality and justice in the judicial system?

    There was none.

    Why?

    The homeless man, with a mental disorder, who was brutally beaten to death was Kelly Thomas. And he was white.

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    The evidence for the death of Kelly Thomas can more aptly be linked to the brutality that he received than can the brutality that was received by George Floyd. In fact, autopsy of Floyd confirmed that there was "no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation." (1) And yet there was not this immediate call for action. There were no protests from California to Texas, all the way to New York.

    The phrases "systemic racism," "systemic oppression," and their other variants are made out of whole cloth--at least when it applies to blacks. There is systemic racism against whites and Asians in this country in the form of affirmative action, which is de jure systemic racism, as it is government-sanctioned racism on a national scale. That cannot be argued: it is pure fact, no matter how you try to justify it. De facto systemic racism has also come into play. The fact that probably none of you knew Kelly Thomas and had to Google him is indicative of how the death of a white person by police is treated in this country compared to that of minority, particularly a black person.

    1: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-autopsy-findings-released-monday/5307185002/
     
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    I agree with your argument completely but two wrongs don't make a right, evidently no crowd came forward for that poor mans death.
     
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    Never said two wrongs make a right. What happened to Flody was bad. No doubt about it. What happened to Kelly was worse. Yet nothing. Not a peep. No nationwide cry for justice. Why?
     
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    Well, it's pretty obvious, really. The name says it all, Black Lives Matter. The counter proposal that all lives matter, is in a moment purest irony deemed racist.
     
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    @Xyce It's because white people have lost all group identity. White people are just a group of single people. Black people have more a group awareness.

    The story of this homeless man is really sad.
     
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    I remember the death of Kelly Thomas because THERE WAS an outcry of the injustice, but no, it is not an example of systemic racism.

    What it was was a case of the inequities of the police dealing with mental illness and the LAPD was forced to improve its training for these individuals.

    It is downright shameful on your part to try and equate this to systemic racism.
     
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    Because it wasn't virtue signaling worthy or political enough to get on CNN.
     
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    I doubt you "remember the death of Kelly Thomas." Whether you do or don't, there was not an "outcry," as you said; if anything, there was a whisper in which some in the local community spoke up, but there was no constant coverage of it in the The New York Times, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, and the rest of the liberal mainstream media as there is with Floyd, for example. There were no nationwide protests and riots. To suggest otherwise is laughable. In fact, if you are suggesting this, I'd suggest you change your avatar back to the "Twilight Zone" one; it's more fitting.

    Systemic racism against whom? There is no systemic racism against blacks in America. That is a liberal lie. There is systemic racism against whites and Asian via affirmative action (de jure). There is systemic racism when it comes to the systemic coverage of a white man being killed by the police (relatively zero coverage) to a black man being killed be the police (way too much coverage, de facto). In fact, I would call it black privilege that there is this oversaturation of media attention and the jump to conclusion that there was racial intent, simply because the cop was white and the victim was black, in this case.

    Let me ask you a question. Do you "remember" the death of Tony Timpa, too, by police? If so, could you show me where the outrage was? And was it on the scale of George Floyd?

     
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