Minneapolis officer's murder charge to be upgraded in George Floyd death, 3 others charged: report

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  1. HockeyDad

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    I think conservatives should have a protest for justice for all the people murdered by the Democrat's "peaceful protests for justice". We can demonstrate to them how to do a protest without shooting/looting/beating or burning. Hell we just demonstrated the correct way in Michigan and in Virginia within the past year.... no casualties at all.
     
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    Are you kidding us?
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    Like the jackass father, so goes the kid,
    "The son of Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison declared his support for the radical left-wing group ANTIFA after President Trump said he would designate it as a terrorist group.

    “I hereby declare, officially, my support for ANTIFA,” Jeremiah Ellison, a member of the Minneapolis City Council, wrote on his Twitter account Sunday."
     
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    Our peaceful protest goes on every day, we go to work for a living and pay taxes that allows these little bed wetters to exist.
     
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    It’s democrats who are lying, dividing our country and sowing hatred. They lie about the president, they lie about his supporters, they lie about racism. It will lead to civil war, that’s coming. The right is going to win as well.

    enjoy the leftist looting and rioting while you can. I don’t like where we are going but the reality is this is all just the beginning.
     
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    Wonder if there was no knee on his neck would he still be alive.....
     
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    How is this not due process? What are they rioting about again?
     
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    you can always pick our one or handful of presidential pardons to pick on . Go look through the trump pardons. Drug sellers and drug addicts and what have you.
     
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    It began with the struggle and which caused that, from that point he was very likely a dead man. The prosecution will have to prove but for the officers and their acts on the ground he would be alive, and beyond a reasonable doubt and now that they intended to kill him.

    I don't want these guys to get off but it they are over-charged because the SAG is worried that if he doesn't there will be more riots or simply because it is so emotional and they do get off that will be the worst possible scenario.

    He was breathing the whole time, screaming repeatedly and loudly, he was passing air he just wasn't able to oxygenate it. None of the autopsies have listed any physical damage to the neck bones or neck muscles that I have read. The statements about the pressure to the chest comes from brief bad angle video of the other two officers. They have to have some evidence to show how much pressure and for what periods, how do they do that?

    No one is excusing what the officers did, it's a matter of the law and justice in the courtroom. I have been on several juries including a capital murder, I've had those instructions read to me that the decision must be base SOLELY on the evidence produced in the courtroom and that any verdict has to be beyond a reasonable doubt, no maybes, no could have been's, no might have's. The prosecution has to prove their assertions with the evidence and it can't be a kinka sorta. The defense will be playing on that reasonable doubt, how do you know it wasn't his existing health condidtions and drug use with surpressed the cardio/pulmanary system and the oncoming sympthoms of a cardiac event that killed him, all of which the officers have no responsibility.

    And now Ellison has put himself in a position of having to prove they INTENDED to kill Floyd, why not put another 20lb's on your shoulders before you run the marathon?
     
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    Marc Rich was pardoned as a fugitive !
     
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    All over the world doom ... all over the world!
     
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    Actually, I think this new charge does not require intent. I could be wrong. But if what we watched was legal CHANGE THE LAW. What we witnessed shouldn't be tolerated.

     
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    The left confuses "justice". Read the Constitution, justice is about the accused not the victim. It is there to protect someone being prosecuted by the government for a crime and subject to sanction. It says nothing about retribution for the victim which is what these mobs want, that is their justice. This is now about due process for the accused now.
     
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    If you are rescuing someone and they complain of shortness of breath but they are breathing, moving air, what does that tell you?
     
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    Are you kidding me? You are witnessing a move towards justice. Justice for the people.

     
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    So you are blaming the acts and words of the son one the father.

    ANTIFA needs to be investigated and facts uncovered that legal shows that it is a terrorist "organization" that committed terrorist acts and then and only then can we arrest, prosecute, and punish them.

    TRUMP"s declaring ANTIFA a terrorist organization does not legally hold water against Americans. We can declare foreign organizations terrorists organizations. ANTIFA is not one cohesive organization. It is a glomeration of left wing thinking and unproven acts.

    We all can cite opinions as being terroristic but would that stand up in court. Still where are your facts that show that AG Ellison committed a crime??? BRING IT !!
     
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    This is mob mentality, not justice
     
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    Antifa has been declared a terrorist organization. Deal with it.
     
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    Again we can cite a pardon or two from any POTUS that we disagree with. Wait what happens after Tump's second term.
     
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    A system that justifies a peaceful man in handcuffs being killed with callous indifference like an animal is not just.
     
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    Nor is a system that caves to the whims of a violent leftist mob.
     
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    I do not have to deal with because it probably is but based on who the POTUS is that declared it I have to question if that is the right move. I would need some facts because obviously POTUS T cannot be trusted.
     
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    Moronic. Chaos and riots is not justice. Oversight for police departments and a fitting punishment for the guy that killed Floyd is.

    That's not going to happen now.
     
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    He is far more trustworthy than Obama that’s for sure. It’s definitely the right move. You would feel differently if the violence they commit was in a direction you didn’t like
     
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    Why are you spewing partisan blather? I'm not talking about politics. You can put away your talking points and indoctrination. This is about basic humanity and this is a democracy. I am convinced that what you call the "mob" is the majority of people around the world who were outraged by the treatment of a fellow human being. I am not condoning violence, just peaceful, legal protest. I have no need to argue with you. Killing a man unnecessarily is not just. Making his daughter an orphan because you can is not just. Did you see the pain of his father and siblings or doesn't that matter to you? He didn't need to die. Such extreme disrespect for life is not just and if you are a human and not a bot you would see that and ache for George's family. The God who created justice and George condemns killing unnecesarily..
     
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    I’m spewing the truth, you don’t have to like it but it remains true nonetheless. These aren’t talking points, it’s the truth. You are convinced of what you think i see as a mob based on emotion and not a proper analysis of what I’ve said. The reality is you are wrong. I don’t care if you argue with me or not that’s your choice. Rioting and looting is not just. Have you seen the victims of this rioting? Does that matter to you? If you were a human and not a bot you would see the destruction being caused and feel for the victims of it.
     
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