What are they protesting for?

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  1. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    Left and media don’t like facts... facts are facts. Riots are based on lies

    racism is profitable business for media and a weapon the left uses to attain power. It has to be kept alive and well.
     
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    Again it's called transference you can have an underlying anger about x but it manifests on y.

    Rodney king riots:

    "The reaction to the acquittal in South Central Los Angeles — now known just as South Los Angeles — was particularly violent. At the time, more than half of the population there was black. Tension had already been mounting in the neighborhood in the years leading up to the riots: the unemployment rate was about 50 percent, a drug epidemic was ravaging the area, and gang activity and violent crime were high."

    https://www.npr.org/2017/04/26/5247...in-anger-a-look-back-at-the-rodney-king-riots

    Detroit riots:

    "The entire city was in a state of economic and social strife: As the Motor City’s famed automobile industry shed jobs and moved out of the city center, freeways and suburban amenities beckoned middle-class residents away, which further gutted Detroit’s vitality and left behind vacant storefronts, widespread unemployment and impoverished despair."

    https://www.history.com/.amp/topics/1960s/1967-detroit-riots

    Would you like me to continue ?
     
  3. TurnerAshby

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    Did not read the definition I sourced on the psychological term transference? Because if you had you'd see that your question is irrelevant
     
  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's your assertion that this is about being unemployed, I've asked you to present any evidence of such. I watch the protest last night and today, I have listened to them interviewed, I have listened to the government officials and talking heads and not one has said it's about unemployment for the last 10 weeks. You have presented nothing to support that claim. I have asserted it is about claims of police racism, are you denying that is what they are rioting about?

    I posted two cites showing research that the asserted polical racism is a myth. You have not refuted those.

    If you want to comment on that have at it. If you have something else to discuss start a thread.
     
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    No, there isn't. Even starvation doesn't cause rioting, when the people are not so inclined.

    This is a cultural phenomenon, the alleged trigger is not the actual reason.
     
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  6. TurnerAshby

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    Yes there is see above posts... also

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_riot
     
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    Its BOTH. Things can have multiple causes and in these case everyone is refusing to acknowledge articles from MONTHS ago about potential unrest. There are 40 million plus people unemployment. Come on
     
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    Sorry, but that's nonsense. There are people all over the world who can't even dream about a square meal, much less a job .. and they're not ****ing rioting.
     
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    It's a CULTURAL problem, not an economic one. India is full of people in dire straights right now (and they were already very poor), due to this pandemic .. and they're not rioting and looting. They're putting their energies into staying alive.
     
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    No its BOTH..... except certain people dont want to acknowledge both factors for some reason . Go through this thread with all my sourced articles, there are articles FROM MARCH saying this might happen...

    CULTURAL thing you say..... so why wasn't there riots to this scale in the Garner case when that video was released or Martin case or the Rice case or the Freddy Grey case etc etc. Why didn't those cases cause this level of disruption? What's different? Most of those had video?

    Its obvious but you refuse to acknowledge record levels of unemployment are exacerbating this
     
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    Lmao I've sourced everything I've said have you?
     
  12. TurnerAshby

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    "Even starvation doesn't cause rioting, when the people are not so inclined."
    Your quote ^^^

    "During 2007–2008, a rise in global food prices led to riots in various countries. A similar crisis recurred in 2010–2011."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_riot
     
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    I agree with you completely, we do have a cultural and an entitlement problem in the country as we speak right now. I don't know how that changes, but hopefully sooner than later.
     
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    So why wasn't there riots to this scale for Garner,Rice,Grey,Brown etc etc?

    I'd say the main difference is we now have the highest unemployment since WW2

    Surely stuff like this doesn't play a factor?

    https://markets.businessinsider.com...quarter-coronavirus-fallout-2020-6-1029269838

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    Economic activity in the second quarter has been cut by more than half, according to a tracker employed by the Atlanta Federal Reserve.

    The GDPNow outlook is now showing a 52.8% tumble, following data Monday that U.S. manufacturing remains firmly in decline and will weigh on investment and consumption. That data from the Institute for Supply Manufacturing showed just 43.1% of firms seeing expansion in May."
     
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    There is only one species of human animal, and we're all it. If those in one part of the world can endure far worse deprivation and NOT riot, then the problem is patently not economic.

    You are working in the tiny bubble of the First World, which is really bad science. And in so doing you reveal that truth of it being cultural, not economic.
     
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    Why didn't any of these cases garner,brown,martin,grey have this level of national rioting?

    Maybe us having post ww2 record levels of unemployment plays a role
     
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    NO, its about you white guys, telling them when they can have a problem with anything. And the police union, declaring that if they dont want to be killed, it means they ALL want to assassinate cops, so those cops are REALLY gonna crack black skulls now.
     
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    OR, you are teed off, so things that happen take on greater irritation than otherwise. They still are irritants. Such as, you say, honey, you REALLY are just pms. It aint me, I did nothing. And she gives you plenty of why fors.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    Is it really? How so?
     
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    You white guys, are entitled, to ask what they think they are trying to achieve, with snark and insult. Blacks are not entitled, to opine much of anything about whites. Nor able to snark about them, particularly in public.

    This is why blacks invented jive.
     
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    At this point I think it is to prove that not all black lives matter and the Covid 19 social distancing and the shutdown was bollocks.
     
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    They don't know, they just think it so, so it's so! It's ridiculous, it's pitiful and sad. Does the unemployment have a small factor? Yeah, but we can choose to do the right thing or the wrong thing and what you're pointing out that we don't wanna hear is that a lot of us are choosing to do the wrong thing.
     
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    Protests are happening in large cities right?

    LA, NY, Chicago, Atlanta etc.

    Question which types of jobs are more prevalent in those large cities manufacturing or service?

    Follow up question which jobs have been hit harder because of Corona lock downs manufacturing or service?

    What I find painful is to see a problem we all know it's a problem but nobody wants to look at all the whys...

    Nobody is saying the above makes it ok but if you have a toxic environment bad people will take advantage. Smart people try to less to amount of toxicity

    https://www.businessinsider.com/industries-hiring-the-most-workers-in-every-major-us-city

    Read through that list and tell me which of those jobs wouldn't have been stopped due to Corona....
     
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    What am I entitled to? I earned everything I got.

    We are told this is about "systemic police racism", do you have anything to add to what I posted refuting it?
     

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