Why AntiFa Exists

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  1. BuckyBadger

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    They are also, literally, the same thing. It's like one Nazi screaming at the other that he is not SS, so he is not the bad Nazi. lol
     
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    Why is it that I 9nly people that live in democratic strong hold say they are all over. If what you say is true you would think that in Republican areas you would run into more of them since it is claimed that they are part of the party.
     
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    Just like you havent met any KKK, there is no need to distinguish. Here, they stand out like sore thumbs.
     
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    lol

    He is ANTIFA and he is an anarchist. After police searched his residence and confiscated two guns, six spray-paint cans, gloves, books, ANTIFA flags, ANTIFA and anarchist literature, his parents turned him in. There are literally thousands of young people (mostly men) like him around the country, and it is increasingly evident that they have been largely responsible for the outbreak of vandalism and violence in marches around the country. ANTIFA is now designated as a domestic terrorist group.

    Call this movement ANTIFA. It is a loosely organized group of anarchists who are committed to creating mayhem around the country in the name of fighting “fascism.” Their characteristic tactic is using low-level violence — vandalism and street-fighting rather that frequently escalates to terrorism and sometimes murder.
     
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    Ollie doesn't know WTF he's talking about. I used to live in Richmond and still live in the area and you wouldn't believe how many lunatic Leftist fringe wackos live in the RVA, and yes they were out rioting this week. I should check out the arrest report because I know some of the hardcore "activists" in our area and where they live.

    Another thing that's not surprising is how the Democratic governor of Virginia and the Democratic mayor of Virginia let those idiots riot last weekend. They're damned lucky a bunch of people didn't get killed, and a lot of the folks in this area are furious that they didn't prevent the violence when everyone knew it was coming. It was freakin' Charlottesville all over again...
     
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    Uh-huh.

    Richmond Police: 233 arrested Sunday night, including members of ANTIFA, out-of-towners
    https://wjla.com/news/local/richmond-police-arrests-sunday-night-antifa

    So, again, why didn't Antifa show up for the pro-gun rally in Richmond on MLK day?
     
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    @Talon That's quite current in history :
    _ Rather young male,
    _ Extremly zealous toward their cause
    _ Strong will to police society.
    _ Legitimate violence by vilifying people who disagree with them.
    _ Want to purge their society of non desirable elements : jews, heretics, unbelievers, ennemies of the revolution.
    _ Tend to see thinks in black and white : either you're a nazi or you're a traitor to germany, either you are for the communist revolution or be an ennemy of the people, either you're progressive or a fascist, either you stick to the same religious views or you're a heretic.

    We could speak of : jihadist, SS and SA, red guard (either in China or USSR), bolchevik, if we're looking in more ancient history, I think there is other examples, less obvious, such as the followers of Savonarole.

    Most of the times : they end this was
    _ They die in wars caused by their ideologies (SS, part of communist, revolution member of the french revolution)
    _ They're purged by other faction of their ideology, for instance SA were slaughtered by the SS, trotskist ended to be killed by stalinist
    _ They end in position of dominance and become suddenly more "moderate".

    I'm pretty sure that we could find more examples of that during history, however before the 19th century, those kind of people would be exclusively religious.
     
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    So much for stopping the suppression of people's rights, freedoms, and economic and social opportunities...
     
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    Correction to typo in Post #81:

     
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    If you invoke the word "charlottesville", they'll get out their Trump racist talking points that we all know isn't true and was distorting the President's comments. The great irony of that was, these were the same people who was angry about "you lie" to Obama during the SOTU address.

    As has recently been said: If it weren't for double standards, the Liberals wouldn't have any. Now that all four are charged, I hope the fools go back into their basements where they belong.
     
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    "Charlottesville" has already been invoked, my friend.

    A lot of us know that the failure to maintain peace and order in Charlottesville and Richmond is no coincidence, and many Virginians including myself are incensed. We refuse to be quiet while our lives and property are jeopardized by reckless and irresponsible Democratic officials who are seeking to benefit from the racially and politically charged violence they permit to occur in our streets. We're not their pawns and cannon fodder, and it's appalling how two very ambitious politicians (McAuliffe & Singer) got away with treating us as such. Hopefully, now that lightning has struck twice in the same place, more Virginians are going to start waking up.

    Here's another thing - Richmond, like many other cities across our country, is broke, and things have only gotten worse since the Wu Flu shutdown. It cannot afford the costs associated with the riots, and the people who are going to get hurt the most are the people the rioters claim to be fighting for.

    It's ****ing outrageous...
     
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    All maybe 200 of them, nationwide. They are irellevant since decades ago.
     
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    But...but, surely the bus was filled with white supremacist since Oliver assures us they dont just engage in violence for violence sake.
     
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    Excellent post. :beer:

    You're right, Your Highness - we've seen these monsters before.

    What you're seeing in America right now is strikingly similar to the nihilistic movements in revolutionary France and pre-revolutionary Russia. Left to their own devices, the "progressive" psychopaths in my country will perpetrate the same Terror you saw in your own. When I look at them I see the sans-culottes and tricoteuses that you are familiar with. They will bathe our country in blood and revel in it.
     
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    However wholesome and pure their original charter May have been, once they started stuffing m-80’s into class wine bottles, which is the definition of an I.E.D., and started hucking them at people, they became terrorists.
     
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    They can manage to do a lot of damage, but old time communist were often highly disciplined people. Furthermore, at that time, they had the support of many hardened worker. That's also something quite common, during a lot of revolution, the most extreme elements are not always from the lower class. For instance, during the french revolution people who wanted to dechrisitianize France were mostly of the upper class. First hour republican were quite rare and most people were quite attached to the king, until he decided to flee Paris. Lenine was from rather a rich background.

    However, they will damage the USA more and more. All the neighbourhoods they destroyed, I don't think they will fully recover. The USA before could have more easily recover of that, but :
    _ Even in 2019, the USA were heavily in debt as most western countries, around the amound of the GDP.
    _ There is a heavy economic crisis because of the coronavirus.
    Small business owner, they will probably die because of that, sometimes literally, big one, they would just invest their money somewhere else, and even if they build back things, that won't be as much.
    That mean more poverty for those neighbourhood. By the way, the left wing and antifa will use this increase of poverty (they caused) to feed more grudge, resentment and never take responsibility. This resentment will lead to more violence that would male people poorer and poorer. The left always excuse crimes because "people are poor", but crime cause much more poverty than it cause. You have plenty of places which are poor that have few crimes, however they often quickly know an economic development, as people can start to open business and get richer. A place with high criminality would however always end into poverty.

    I doubt they will manage to get in power, however, they destroy and will destroy further your country and other countries in the world.
     
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    So we have racism, murder and government authoritarianism? But heck let's just whinge aimlessly about the progressives. Yep, that'll win the right wing logic bingo stakes!

    Ever wondered why anti-fascist groups exist? Come now, its a tad obvious.
     
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    This is bought and paid for rent a mob. Antifa are a bunch of otherwise unemployed man bun wearing Starbucks baristas or future university employee hopefuls. At this point, Antifa is the most money they have ever made.
     
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    Willie Sutton wasn't violent, he just liked to get his hands on the money bags in the banks. Just liked money, that's all.:roflol:

    btw, Sutton was the first Slick Willie.
     
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    Anarchists and coup members always hide behind a nice sounding justification banner which sometimes even has a smidgen of truth.
     
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    Not at all surprised to see many white suprematist living in dem strongholds like Cali. They love dems
     
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    #EXPOSEANTIFA is now trending on Twitter.

    Names, locations and jobs of ANTIFA members are being exposed and put online. ANTIFA, a domestic terrorist organization, was infiltrated by an outside organization and had undercover footage it will release.

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    In #ExposeAntifa, it is revealed that Caroline Victorin (née Gauld) is one of the founders of Rose City Antifa, the oldest known antifa organization in the US. With her Swedish husband, Johan Victorin,—who is also antifa—they helped import European antifa extremism model into US.In #ExposeAntifa, it is revealed that Caroline Victorin (née Gauld) is one of the founders of Rose City Antifa, the oldest known antifa organization in the US. With her Swedish husband, Johan Victorin,—who is also antifa—they helped import European antifa extremism model into US.

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    Peaceful protesters in DC tackle an Antifa rioter and hand him over to the police for trying to turn things violent. He was smashing the pavement so people could have objects to throw at the police.

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1267250164277764097

    Check out the video above of an ANTIFA member trying to hammer out sidewalk bricks to throw and he literally gets manhandled and hauled over to the police so he can be arrested. Thank God we have good people in this world that will stand up against ANTIFA and their Nazi violent tactics.

    ANTIFA is now being hunted and arrested.
     
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    Is it not rather amusing? After all conservatives are always giving me the manly man bit. Often questioning the manliness of liberals. In fact, a few days ago, three different conservatives made a post that suggested I, and people like me, might be a cuck. Apparently a new favorite word of conservatives. Maybe Freud was correct after all, that one’s sexual outlook influences one’s behavior.

    Yet here it is. The head of the greatly feared Rose City AntiFa. A bubbly middle aged woman. ooooo how scary. Better get working on those weights if you think you are ever gonna take down the greatest mastermind of all time. It is even worse than you thought. There is another woman, a close friend of hers. It is twice as scary. Two women. Like Joan of Arc times two.

    Better get yer gun.
     
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    Amen.

    I travel quite extensively both in the US/CAN and to Europe as well. For some time Portland was on the top of my bucket list, the Willamette, Tillamook, the crooked river Mt. Hood, and I had read a long book series that centered on that area (Emberverse) but Portland is so far down the list now that I'll never make it there, even my extremely left wing cousin said he thought it was terrible and specifically mentioned Antifa clowns as the problem. Its a shame that such a beautiful area's reputation can be ruined by bad people so quickly.
     
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    It seems that the issue of the AntiFa has turned into another of a long list of issues where conservatives have been led to believe a narrative that does not square with reality. Things like global warming is a hoax, tax cuts pay for themselves, liberals live in their parents’ basement, Jim Acosta hit the aide, Obama doesn’t have a legitimate birth certificate, the economic crash at the end of of Bush’s presidency was caused by Democrats forcing banks to give loans to minorities, they didn’t “evolve from no monkey”, and Trump and his band of miscreants haven’t been playing hanky panky with the Russians or trying to corrupt the Ukraine.

    Even the FBI fails to find the supposed “antifa” activities so many conservatives absolutely insist are going on. I’ve read FOX news reports on “antifa” where they blame anyone who might be left leaning as being a member of “antifa”, without proof. And every time they make comments about the “antifa” they also quip about the anti fascist being the actual fascists, often using terms that sound eerily similar to what we hear conservatives all across the country later say.

    Which is rather funny, as I often find conservative logic to be. A fascist is defined as one who supports right wing authoritarianism with a strong nationalistic bent with a preferred religion and ethnicity. It is kind of sad when the best insult a conservative can lob at a liberal is to claim the liberal is as bad as a conservative.


    From the FBI reports it seems most of the violence is caused by right wingers. Timmothy McVeigh was a right wing militia member. The Aryan Nation, The Order and other such White supremacist Christian Nationalists have left a wake of murder, destruction, and robbery. In Charlottesville a right wing zealot drove his car into into a crowd of people killing a woman. Right wing extremist Dylann Roof shot up a room of Black church goers and there has been a spat of right wingers shooting Jews at Jewish Institutions.

    In the current crises, it has been shown that right wingers have been pretending to be “antifa” and using social media. That violent right wing gangs like the Proud Boys have been involved in much of the destruction.


    Yet to the conservative world, young black clad men kicking over trash cans are somehow transformed into the feared “antifa” who are the real criminals. Some how this phantom “antifa” is worse than the violently militant right wing gangs and their ideology.


    I’m quite sure that I will be vilified by conservatives. My character and intelligence will be questioned. As is always the case. I’m also quite sure that the conservative narrative is quite mistaken, and purposely so, which leaves the disparagements sounding rather hollow.
     

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