Crossing the Rubicon

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    Masha Gessen is a history prof at Amherst. She grew up in Russia, so when she writes about autocratic governments, she's lived it.

    "A power grab is always a performance of sorts. It begins with a claim to power, and if the claim is accepted—if the performance is believed—it takes hold. Much as he played a real-estate tycoon in the most crude and reductive way, Trump is now performing his idea of power as he imagines it. In his intuition, power is autocratic; it affirms the superiority of one nation and one race; it asserts total domination; and it mercilessly suppresses all opposition. Whether or not he is capable of grasping the concept, Trump is performing fascism."

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/donald-trumps-fascist-performance
    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=masha+gessen&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
     
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    Pure garbage. Do you have any proof of such?
     
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    Which one is that - the black race? Ironically yes. Minorities are the sacred cow now all over the world. They have been granted the privilege to be above the law.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    I've read some of her other work. She knows what she's talking about.

    You need a counterargument, and a good one.

    Hey, a miracle could happen!
     
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    Nah, she is clearly blinded by her hatred of Trump. She is incapable of coming up with anything of substance.
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You hit head the nail on the head. That is why CNN, CBS, NYTimes, Washington Post, etc.... have all been shut down, their reporters jailed and their owners executed. That is why Hollywood is only allowed to produce far right facist entertainment. That is why Social Media is only allowed to ban liberal content and material critical of Trump. The evidence is ALL around us.

    Meanwhile the owner of Amazon (who owns The Washington Times) has his "journalists" cheer on the "peaceful protests" as they utterly destroy his competition one brick and mortar store at a time (talk about useful idiots). If you did not buy into Amazon stock when this began, you are a functional idiot. Jeff Bezos is the single biggest winner out of this, he could end up making hundreds of billions of dollars out of the carnage. If black lives matter, why are they using them to make the richest WHITE man in the world richer while destroying the lives of small black business owners?
     
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    Objectively speaking the only attribute that actual fits is the one nation bit. Nothing else describes trump unless you're hyper partisan. If she's a professor i feel bad for her students
     
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    Her field of study is autocracies, you're the one with no visible sign of substance.

    Btw, it's not just her. A lot of former spooks and diplomats have seen the same degradation in other countries, and they are worried.
     
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    He's been working towards that for years. It's what dictator wannabees do, if we let him, he will escalate. He's said he wants to...
     
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    She is a political hack. Anyone that is part of the upper crust establishment hates Trump because he is raining on their parade.
     
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    While I mostly agree with you on this topic, it doesn't belong in this forum... Needs to be started in the opinion forum, my friend...

    Trumpism, and it's blind support by elected officials who should know better, will make for a very interesting period of research for historians...
     
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    What will make the history books is the divisiveness and insanity of the left since 2016. The dems tried to tear this country apart and succeeded. The dems are by far the best Russian assets the Russians could ever have asked for
     
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    I had no idea Breitbart and 4chan were liberals! Amazing!!!

    Kid, you are projecting more than a megamall cineplex ever could.
     
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    I have to, and she clearly doesn't know anything. She is overly biased and that clouds here work both previous and current.
     
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    Sure, she watched Putin come to power, did her PHD on autocracies and has worked in the field for years writing books and papers.

    Do you have ANY idea what you sound like??
     
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    She watched putin come to power and now is an expert? Lmao, no she is an overly emotional person who is clearly incapable of separating emotion from logic.
     
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    Yet you are incapable of offering a substantive rebut.

    I've actually read her work. You haven't.

    Not that it would help if you did read her work, you simply don't know enough to generate relevant criticism.
     
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    My rebut is absolutely substantive. She is emotional and that makes her ignorant as she refuses to apply logic correctly. She has done this in the past as well, her work is riddled with it.

    Your inability to recognize this says more of you than I lol.
     
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    A rebut would tell us why, what you have now is 2 excuses that don't pass the laugh test.

    As I said yesterday, it's not just her. There are former spooks and diplomats that have seen this degradation in other countries resulting in autocracy.

    Which doesn't include a small army of historians who are painfully aware of history.
     
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    I have specifically told you her issue, and how it liters her work and why. Just because you dont want to actually view this is an objective manner doesn’t make me wrong lol.
     
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    You made an assertion that you can't back up.

    But the thousands of experts that agree can, and do, back up their assertions.

    You seem to think you doing something here. While it's amusing, it's sophomoric.
     
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    I made a correct assertion that you dont like.

    Experts often agree and disagree on a whim, determined by who is paying them and politics.

    The reality is, you hate that this person you have put so much faith is isn’t what you thought she was.
     
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    You made an assertion you can't back up.

    It occurs to me that everyone that is serious, from generals like Mattis to historians like Gessen are seeing what is obvious. We're talking thousands of people that know what they're talking about.

    You don't.

    But feel free to prove me wrong.
     
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    I made an assertion that is objectively true and backed it up properly

    You simply dont like the truth that the person you put so much trust in is actually not what you thought she was.
     

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