Question: Will the Officers Get A Fair Trial

What video shows this?

 

If he was doing that it's first degree. He knew the guy was dying and kept the pressure on.

Premeditation can be a mere second, that's all that's needed.

 

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...s-killed-in-police-custody-1.4268506?mode=amp

 

Video does not corroborate your claim

 

One I haven't seen any video.
2 I have heard there was security camera footage prior to that.

 

Wait....you haven't seen any video yet you make comments like below? Wow...smfh

 

I hope you are correct, it would be a shame if he walked.

 

The reporter specifically states at 2:57 that Floyd is already in distress, and he is standing at this time. And then at 3:06, you can see Floyd collapse. Intentional to avoid being put in the police vehicle? Or physiological because the drugs, alcohol, COVID-19 and stress are shutting down his biological functions? These are important questions that need to be considered by the jury.

 

The cop didn't play that game.

 

And brutish thuggish actions are your inspiration for rectifying the injustice? It will create more horror and injustice, not less. If you truly want a just world, you don't surrender it to mindless violence.

 

There is no such animal in the world called justice it is a theory.

 

A) That is the reporters OPINION
B) The "distress" appears to be possibly due to pain from having his arms pulled from being helped up.
C) Even if he was in "distress" breathing wise prior to having a knee planted on his neck, then all the more reason Chauvin should not have done so

 

If history is any guide, they will be declared innocent, regardless of their crimes.

In America, we do not hold police officers accountable for their actions, no matter how heinous.

 

Ah, I see you subscribe to the John Rawls Theory of Justice (there isn’t any). Follow that thought, you’ll discover there is.

 

On that we agree, but it leans toward reckless homicide, not premeditated murder.

In my mind there is no doubt that the officer is a sadistic thug masquerading as a police officer, but that's not proof of 1st or 2nd degree murder, nor is it proof that he’s a racist. I personally think this brute cares far less about skin color, and cares far more that he is the power and citizens better obey.

I'd like to read more about the 13 complaints against him, and the three shootings and one death he was involved in.

 

Wonder if they will offer a plea deal?

 

Second-degree murder is defined as murder that is not premeditated, or murder that is caused by the offender's reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life.

 

I think we should just do away with the courts all together and allow you to decide who lives and dies

 

It requires not that you are indifferent to a death your action might cause, but that you seek it purposely at the moment. As when an armed robbery shots a clerk at a store who doesn't move fast enough--he didn’t enter the store to kill, but got irritated and murdered the clerk on the spur of the moment (Fk you. You’re dead meat). That's second degree.

 

That’s your interpretation, it’s not the law. I gave you the link.

 

Depends on how much fear of the mob there is.

 

I wanted to post this to aid in the discussion.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.19

"609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
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Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings.

Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:

(1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or

(2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit a drive-by shooting in violation of section 609.66, subdivision 1e, under circumstances other than those described in section 609.185, paragraph (a), clause (3).

Subd. 2.Unintentional murders.

Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:

(1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting; or

(2) causes the death of a human being without intent to effect the death of any person, while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection and the victim is a person designated to receive protection under the order. As used in this clause, "order for protection" includes an order for protection issued under chapter 518B; a harassment restraining order issued under section 609.748; a court order setting conditions of pretrial release or conditions of a criminal sentence or juvenile court disposition; a restraining order issued in a marriage dissolution action; and any order issued by a court of another state or of the United States that is similar to any of these orders."​

Of course this does not allow for any precedent so it will be interesting to see the arguments.

 

Actually it's NOT my interpretation. I looked it up and every link shows the same consistent definition I supplied.

 

So you have no answer. Okay.......