Portland (aka "Little Beirut") quiet despite conservative claims of widespread leftist incitement...

A few years ago, conservatives were clamoring to claim that Portland had been taken over by left-wing thugs & was fast becoming a communist sh*thole, but despite this ridiculous panic-mongering, Portland remains one of the most beautiful, safe, stable - and expensive! - cities in the country.

Unrest there over the past few days has been all but non-existent despite the most fervent prayers of, among others, FOX News.

As I've stated many time, the claims of specific political affiliations/motivations by those committing property crimes and other unlawful acts are largely baseless, and the quiet in Portland (not only a liberal stronghold, but a city with an unusually large number of actual leftists) seems to bear this out.

Thoughts?

 

Relatively peaceful Little Beirut disrupts the narrative, so crickets.

LOL

 

I guess if you ignore all the junkies, Portland might be nice.

 

All they have in Portland are pot shops. Radical lefties aren’t going to burn them down.

 

Portland has become pretty gentrified in recent years, relatively speaking.
The affordability situation there, within the city limits, is not good.

There's still more homelessness than you could believe, but an increasing portion of the younger population are young professionals who moved in from other places.
They're pretty liberal and progressive, but too bourgeoise and too busy with their careers to take part in these sort of protests.

 

There is nothing left to loot in Portland.

 

Protests in Portland: Riots and unrest in Rose City
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/lo...land/283-21d67e10-4b33-46d4-a81e-7d3b437a7519

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There are protests in Portland, just like every other major American city. But by Portland standards, the protests have been rather mild. On the first day a large group marched from a park in North Portland to the Justice Center in downtown about four miles away. As the main crowd faded away a secondary crowd emerged which was much more confrontational and ended up smashing windows and lighting a fire inside the Justice Center. But it is a large secure building with a jail on the top two floors. That is where the Bundy gang spent about eight months a couple of years ago. Anyhow the fire was quickly suppressed and the building secured.

Since then the day protestors and the police have been getting along just fine. Even kneeling together and hugging. Part of the situation is that the Portland police have been showing great improvements over the last decade when dealing with Black people, and, I'm sure, it is much easier dealing with most Portland police officers, than the police in most other cities.

The Rose City antiFa was the first openly anti fascist, anti racist group in America to use the name antiFa. Originally it was created to push back against skin heads who were trying to establish a base in Portland. Our dumb president and many on the right are blaming the violence in the antiFa. Yet here in Portland, the home of the antiFa, they seem to be sitting this one out. It really isn't what they do.

However the rowdy crowd at night at mostly anarchist and young adults looking to blow off steam. I haven't heard much about looting, but then they did put up barriers in front of the stores before the protests began. Most of Friday and Saturday nights was of pockets of people playing a cat and mouse game with the police. Apparently the people kept chanting, "Whose streets?" "Our streets!"

One of the Oregon state Senators said he was out incognito observing the protests. He claims he saw a group, he refered to as the Poor Boys. He claimed as the protests wore on, one by one, a member of the group would leave the group, run up to the front line of the protest, throw a projectile at the police, and then run zig zag through the crowd until they met back up with their group. Over and over again. This behaviour can be seen on the video that has been being shown in the local news.

 

Thanks for the update straight from the relatively peaceful city.

If one buys into the fantastic conservative narratives about the evil left, Portland would be expected to be nothing but smoldering ruins.

 

I guess when you live in a city that gets destroyed by violent leftist rioters on a regular basis, this sort of thing starts to look "peaceful" to you.

Conservatives and liberals have very different definitions of "peaceful".

 

I was in SE Portland just yesterday. Trying to get out before curfew announced as 6Pm yesterday, I saw a couple of Black Lives Matters posters drawn over some freeway overpasses, and heard a distant chant. I think it was smart for the Mayor to close down the major freeways so outside trouble-makers could not enter as easily after nightfall. These riots are definitely dissipating

 

Ah, this might explain the "peacefulness" of Portland right now.

6% Black population? That's half the 12% Black population of the US. Talk about white supremacy.

Why so white, Portland?

 

They like to talk a big game, but live in gated communities so darky, and the rest of the riff raft can’t interrupt their online virtue signaling.

 

Meanwhile, in the "flyover" Midwest that the enlightened Portlanders dismiss as racist redneck country.

 

Portland, like many other of the democrat party run cities, is so screwed up because of "progressive mayors" and a lot of "white guilt". Most people look at their fellow man and just see their fellow man, those affected with white guilt see their fellow man and they pick and choose which ones they think are victims that need their help.

 

Do you think maybe a combination of Portland's "famously racist" police, and Portland's tiny black population, might be a factor in why Portland is so safe and stable?



https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...oyd-black-lives-matter-quanice-hayes-1009300/

 

Oregon, the whole Northwest began as a white supremacist paradise. It used to be illegal to be Black. Although they did employ Chinese labor.

Unlike Boulder, which, by design, began as a liberal paradise, Portland began as a rather backwater kind of town of crude men with low intelligence. Most of the early wealth came from logging and from paper mills. They had no environmental controls. Raw sewage and industrial waste was dumped into the Willamette River and all the trees were cut down, giving Portland the nickname, Stump-town. There are no trees in Portland older than about a hundred years.

For most of Portland’s history the town was divided between the very wealthy and poor working people. A good chunk of what is now downtown, was a row of large mansions. Along the perimeter were cheap hotel/apartments for single men above the shops below.

Along with logging, shipbuilding and later train and truck manufacturing, and the outdoor fashion industry, Portland became a city. But it was still backwards, and had one of the worse educational systems in the country. There is even still a stereotype Oregonian going around with bad teeth and illiterate. Not sure why, but I think it is related to logging. I call it the Oregonian curse. There is a rather large number of people in the Northwest, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, who have physical and/or mental birth defects. It seems to me, an inordinate number of people limp.

Portland reached its industrial peak during WWII because of the shipbuilding for the war effort. After the war, Portland fell into a deep decline. The population dropped and parts of town fell into disrepair. There were almost no new homes built between the end of the war and 1980. The change came when the high tech industry began to move in. It began as a trickle in the 1960’s but really got moving once Intel set up shop in 1976. It was high tech that brought life and vitality to the Portland economy and now makes up about a 1/5th of the economy.

Something that seems to get missed in American history, is that most of the so-called hippies were middle and upper middle class college students. It is pretty easy to pile a bunch of friends into a VW van and drive cross country getting high over summer break when you’re still getting money from home. Most went on to become professionals. The industry most influenced by this hippie experience was the high tech world. Steve Jobs claimed it was acid trips that helped him with his vision of the future. It was like that in Boulder and San Fransisco, a melding of hippie sensibilities with the emerging microprocessor based technological developments. That it is liberal should come as no surprise as liberalism is basically the ideology of educated scientifically thinking people.

From the late seventies on, Portland has been being slowly transformed into a liberal oasis in almost direct proportion to the influx of high tech companies and their employees.


Yet there is still plenty of racial bigotry in the city and state. The group that eventually became the Rose City AntiFa began after White supremacists beat a Black man to death at a bus stop in the nineties. The county just to the south of Portland is Clackamas Country. It is much Whiter than Portland and is sometimes jokingly referred to as Kluh Klux Klackamas County.

Most of the violence and vandalism in Portland, and the whole Northwest is caused by anarchists who are everywhere. Most of what people accuse the “antifa” of doing is really the work of anarchists. The A with the circle around it is the symbol of anarchists.

Most anarchists probably don’t vote and don’t care. They are mostly angry young adults with little education and no future. And most importantly, they absolutely hate the police and all government authority.

 

Wow, so that's why Portland is such a forlorn backwater filled with racist cops, mobs of drug-addicted homeless people, and mayhem-loving hooligans.

Wasn't the point of this thread that Portland was a nice place where civilized people would actually want to live? I guess that was a bit of a fail then.

 

Portland is a collection of little neighborhoods, a couple dozen, often called districts. Plus a handful of suburbs. Within each is its own little subculture. And as each has its own main street and grocery stores, it is possible to live entirely in one’s district and never see the rest of the city. So it is quite possible to meet two different people from Portland who will describe it completely differently.

Almost all of the protests and riots one sees on television occur within a square that is about six blocks on a side. The rest of the city rarely sees any spill over. Like every city, the crime rate is inversely proportional to the wealth of the people. In wealthy districts the crime rate is low and in poor districts, it is high, relatively speaking. Oddly enough, it isn’t the neighborhoods where most Blacks live that have the most crime, but rather in the part of town where Ukrainians are numerous. They were like that in Denver too. It makes me wonder if maybe the culture of the Ukraine is so corrupt that immigrants to the US can’t help but bring it along. Much the same way the Sicilians brought the mafia with them to America.

In Portland proper, the wealthier neighborhoods tend to be the most liberal, or at least the most solidly Democratic.

 

Most cities have a ghetto part of town but Portland does not. It has a lot to do with a long time practice. The city has a habit of putting upscale construction in poor parts of town and putting public housing buildings next to well to do neighborhoods. It has a mixing effect.

 

You didn't address any of the questions I asked.

Why do you think liberal Portland has the solutions for America, when you can't even solve the rampant problems of racism, racist cops, homelessness, drug addiction, crime, etc...in your own city?


https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/city/oregon/portland

 

@tedwheeler went out to participate in the BLM protest tonight with a bullhorn. What happened to his COVID-19 mantra of “stay home, stay safe”? Is that over?

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1269113812201861120

Ted is ANTIFA and should be arrested.

 

Those posts aged like a Portland street crackhead.



Portland police declare riot as protests turn violent again
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2 days ago - ... hundred people in Portland, Oregon, descended into violence, prompting police to declare a riot in the city for the second time in three days.

Twice on July Fourth, police declare riot in downtown Portland ...
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5 hours ago - For the second time in less than 24 hours, Portland Police declared a downtown demonstration a riot during Fourth of July protests. Mayor Ted ...

Riot declared as Federal Courthouse attacked in Portland ...
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1 day ago - For the 3rd time this week, a riot was declared in downtown Portland when the Hatfield Federal Courthouse was attacked around 4 a.m. on the ...

 

Portland another city turned into a shithole by liberal policies.

Acting Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Commissioner Mark Morgan asked, “Where are the local political leaders?” after violence rocked Portland, Ore., overnight, and border patrol agents were called in to assist.

“What we saw in Portland last night was criminal and we stood strong with our federal partners to resist that,” Morgan told “Fox & Friends Weekend” on Sunday.

Police in Portland declared a riot around 11 p.m. local time Saturday as Independence Day marked the 38th consecutive day of civil unrest in the city.

Videos showed graffiti painted on downtown buildings and showed a fire burning as a crowd gathered.

Journalist Andy Ngo, writing on Twitter, claimed rioters were burning American flags “while shouting BLM and antifa slogans.”

“These are not protesters, these are criminals who got together and organized and planned and actually brought weapons, they brought shields, they brought frozen water bottles, rocks, lasers, weapons with the intent to destroy a federal building and harm law enforcement officers,” Morgan said on Sunday.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/actin...order-patrol-deployed-to-portland-amid-unrest

 

‘Masked Antifa in Portland opened a black man’s car door’ and it was a really bad idea (video).