And so there is...

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    And so.. why do many sons of men tend to go into city lifestyles rather than stay near their 'father's' houses/suburban areas and neighborhoods?


    Their local school systems play a large part.


    Why would parents to a local bully not mind that their grade school or high school child is involved with 'bullying' as the antagonizer?

    Because although the school student is well dressed and not in shabby clothing, still yet, he/she will bully another student who lives in that neighborhood or school zone.

    And why do none of the other parents know of these parents' life, neighborhood affiliation, etc???

    Even within those close-knitted suburban neighborhoods? Now days, you have front porch cameras catching thieves within these 'suburbaned' neighborhoods.



    The news about the children who were found in the basement of the home.. And the father and mother were brought to court. Basements and homes are not usually within city bordered definitions; maybe suburbs, maybe rural but not citied.



    Why doesn't an official of safety who has authority and proper State credentials take some of these youths and 'ask' them what the truth to the matter is. Not in threatening, but in sincere concern to 'their', these 'bullies' own lives and well being BEFORE they become too old to be able to receive 'sincere care' from someone who is 'younger' than themselves.

    Youths need 'parental/honorable' guardianship(s) not 'dishonorable/parental' basement lockups.


    Are the numbers of 'these types of youths' in each City/County/State THAT NUMEROUS that it is a 'burden' of sorts to try and assist with sincere care because there are not enough 'facilities' to accommodate them 'all'?


    Is everyone trying to focus on 'purchasing' or 'building' accommodations rather than seeking personal 'well being'?
     
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    Truly, are their numbers THAT over the availability? Has anyone actually weighed the available with the needing? Or are their 'eyes larger than their stomach'?


    'finish what's on the plate before adding more'.


    Not only to the underage 'homeless' but to the breachers and breakers to each their State Compulsory Education Laws?

    So how would there NOT be opportunity to 'seek, ask, and knock'?
     
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    Matthew 7:7 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

    Matthew 7:8-11 "For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 9Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? 10Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?"


    What? I'm 'evil'?

    What's that about?


    I'm more oppressed than happy and bright eyed bushy tailed.
    I suffer more than rejoice.
    How can I be called 'evil' for having these be more in abundant than the other 'blessings'?

    4190. ponéros
    Strong's Concordance
    ponéros: toilsome, bad
    Original Word: πονηρός, ά, όν
    Part of Speech: Adjective
    Transliteration: ponéros
    Phonetic Spelling: (pon-ay-ros')
    Definition: toilsome, bad
    Usage: evil, bad, wicked, malicious, slothful.
    HELPS Word-studies
    4190 ponērós (an adjective which is also used substantively, derived from 4192 /pónos, "pain, laborious trouble") – properly, pain-ridden, emphasizing the inevitable agonies (misery) that always go with evil.

    NAS Exhaustive Concordance
    Word Origin
    from poneó (to toil)
    Definition
    toilsome, bad
    NASB Translation
    bad (5), crimes (1), envious (1), envy* (1), evil (50), evil one (5), evil things (1), malignant (1), more evil (1), more wicked (1), vicious (1), wicked (6), wicked man (1), wicked things (1), worthless (1).


    Thayer's Greek Lexicon
    STRONGS NT 4190: πονηρός

    1. full of labors, annoyances, hardships;

    a. pressed and harassed by labors;

    b. bringing toils, annoyances, perils: (καιρός, Sir. 51:12); ἡμέρα πονηρά, of a time full of peril to Christian faith and steadfastness, Ephesians 5:16; Ephesians 6:13 (so in the plural ἡμέραι πονηραί the Epistle of Barnabas 2, 1 [ET]); causing pain and trouble (A. V. grievous), ἕλκος, Revelation 16:2.

    2. bad, of a bad nature or condition;

    a. in a physical sense: ὀφθαλμός, diseased or blind, Matthew 6:23; Luke 11:34 (πονηρία ὀφθαλμῶν, Plato, Hipp., min., p. 374 d.; the Greeks use πονηρῶς ἔχειν or διακεῖσθαι of the sick; ἐκ γενετῆς πονηρούς ὑγιεῖς πεποιηκέναι, Justin Martyr, Apology 1, 22 ((cf. Otto's note); others take πονηρός in Matthew and Luke as above ethically; cf.

    b. and Meyer on Matt.)); καρπός, Matthew 7:17f.

    b. in an ethical sense, evil, wicked, bad, etc. ("this use of the word is due to its association with the working (largely the servile) class; not that contempt for labor is thereby expressed, for such words as ἐργάτης, δραστηρ, and the like, do not take on this evil sense, which connected itself only with a word expressive of unintermitted toil and carrying no suggestion of results" (cf. Schmidt, chapter 85, § 1); the wicked man, i. e. the evil-doer spoken of, 1 Corinthians 5:13; τῷ πονηρῷ, the evil man, who injures you, Matthew 5:39. ὁ πονηρός is used pre-eminently of the devil, the evil one: of things: αἰών, Galatians 1:4; ὄνομα (which see 1, p. 447a bottom), Luke 6:22; ῤᾳδιούργημα,

    Acts 18:14; the heart as a storehouse out of which a man brings forth πονηρά words is called θησαυρός πονηρός, Matthew 12:35;

    Luke 6:45; συνείδησις πονηρά, a soul conscious of wickedness (conscious wickedness; see συνείδησις, b. sub at the end), Hebrews 10:22;

    (according to the context) wrong committed against me, 2 Timothy 4:18; αἰτία, charge of crime, Acts 25:18 L T Tr marginal reading WH marginal reading The neuter πονηρόν, and τό πονηρόν, substantively, evil, that which is wicked: εἶδος πονηροῦ (see εἶδος, 2; (others take πονηροῦ here as an adjective, and bring the example under εἶδος,

    the vices just enumerated, Mark 7:23.


    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    evil, grievous
    From a derivative of ponos; hurtful, i.e. Evil (properly, in effect or influence, and thus differing from kakos, which refers rather to essential character, as well as from sapros, which indicates degeneracy from original virtue); figuratively, calamitous; also (passively) ill, i.e. Diseased; but especially (morally) culpable, i.e. Derelict, vicious, facinorous; neuter (singular) mischief, malice, or (plural) guilt; masculine (singular) the devil, or (plural) sinners -- bad, evil, grievous, harm, lewd, malicious, wicked(-ness). See also poneroteros.

    see GREEK ponos

    see GREEK kakos



    If I, being surrounded by, toilsome, hardshipped, undesirable, misery causing, misery giving, 'evils' am 'evil', being effected by these... if I being 'evil-ed', daily, do good things, how much more Good will The Heavenly Father give 'good' ...??
     
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    And still.

    Who, or what is needing to 'cause' all these daily evils?


    The cares, the anxieties, the deceitfulness of riches of this life.

    Luke 8:14 "...cares and riches and pleasures of this life,..."

    Mark 4:19 "...cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things..."


    other things/things other:
    3062. loipos
    Strong's Concordance
    loipos: the rest, the remaining
    Original Word: λοιπός, ή, όν
    Part of Speech: Adjective
    Transliteration: loipos
    Phonetic Spelling: (loy-poy')
    Definition: the rest, the remaining
    Usage: left, left behind, the remainder, the rest, the others.
    NAS Exhaustive Concordance
    Word Origin
    from leipó
    Definition
    the rest, the remaining
    NASB Translation
    beyond (1), else (2), finally (6), future (1), moreover (1), now (2), other (1), other matters (1), other people (1), other things (1), other women (1), others (4), remaining (2), rest (26), still (2), then (1), things that remain (1), time onward (1).


    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    remaining ones, remnant
    Masculine plural of a derivative of leipo; remaining ones -- other, which remain, remnant, residue, rest.



    lusts:
    1939. epithumia
    Strong's Concordance
    epithumia: desire, passionate longing, lust
    Original Word: ἐπιθυμία, ας, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: epithumia
    Phonetic Spelling: (ep-ee-thoo-mee'-ah)
    Definition: desire, passionate longing, lust
    Usage: desire, eagerness for, inordinate desire, lust.
    HELPS Word-studies
    Cognate: 1939 epithymía (from 1909 /epí, "focused on" and 2372 /thymós, "passionate desire") – properly, passion built on strong feelings (urges). These can be positive or negative, depending on whether the desire is inspired by faith (God's inbirthed persuasion). See 1937 (epithymeō).

    NAS Exhaustive Concordance
    Word Origin
    from epithumeó
    Definition
    desire, passionate longing, lust
    NASB Translation
    coveting (2), desire (4), desires (8 (8) )(;) ), earnestly (1), impulses (1), long (1), lust (5), lustful (1), lusts (15).


    Luke 21:4 "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares."


    It's strange why some 'sons of men' would be needed to be birthed with such 'endowed' wealth; almost as some Divine Right or Heavenly Mandate.
     
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    So instead of looking at the verse in 1 Corinthians about 'homosexuals' in the light of what the definition means today; however not neglecting to note that the use of the definition of 'homosexual' today, was not in language 'use' when 1 Corinthians was written, what could be that 'abominable' or 'non-stoppable' act such as lying lips or any other 'abomination' be?

    http://www.thekingsbible.com/Concordance/abomination


    Because although the word 'homosexual' is used in many current translations, does this only apply to males who are engaging in sexual intercourse with males? Or does this word 'homosexual' apply to females also? Females being uomo's or homo's, as well?

    In latin the word Homo means, mankind, right? not really.. more like man.

    The Latin word for female would be femella.

    So what does this 'homosexual' verse mean?


    Basically it is this.

    Back in those days of well endowed 'males' of which many Phallic practicing events and contests and rituals were held within, the 'man' who could use his endowment to those days' of 'requiring' 'respect' unto for whichever the 'contest' or 'ritual' with its own 'rules and points' to place first or second or third prize, etc... were, these phallic 'fun' games were a part of the norm, especially in certain 'places'/towns, cities, etc....

    And it was to this cause that The Apostle Paul warns against. That for either male or female to participate, sexually with such well endowed males, will lead to a non stoppability to continue with such sexual practices.



    And so at least 'we' know now, right?


    So sorry. I was not 'made' to seek after having sex with well endowed males; even IF I was or not a male who has sex with another male.

    Nor was I 'made' to seek after having sex with endowed males, even IF I was a female who sought to have sex with another male.


    To this point also, did The Apostle Paul address in 1 Corinthians 6:9 pertaining to the current word used; 'homosexuals'
     
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