Darwin, Another flatulent atheist god bites the dust!

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  1. Durandal

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    No one is stopping you from researching evolution instead of remaining wilfully ignorant and demanding that people give you a university education on a web forum.
     
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    Thanks for bringing that up.
    Yeah,that was Kitzmiller vs Dover.
    There's also Edwards vs Aguillard where the Supreme Court ruled that a law requiring that creation science be taught with evolution was unconstitutional, because the Arkansas law in question was specifically intended to advance a particular religion.
    Witness testimony showed that it was precisely because of its controversial religious message that the school board adopted intelligent design and not because of any scientific evidence to support it; which there is none.
     
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    you worship a snake oil salesman, the false darwin god and its all snake oil, which brings up a good point, why does the gubmint allow the atheist religion in schools?
     
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    Repeat liberally... Even though it might hurt some. National Socialist Party.... They were, always socialists in Germany. Always. The idea that somehow you can try to whitewash over that is astounding. I suppose you disavow the KKK even though it was the democrats who founded and continue to populate it today..
     
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    They pretend to know it all, and even if you teach them with citations they will continue foaming at the mouth anyway. Even though the J-Ws tried to starve the germans out, hitler took that country and turned from a ghetto to one of the wealthiest countries in europe in only a couple years. He had to go, cant have any system that would ruin the J-Ws usury monopoly.
     
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    means what I said it means, you look it up - you want to define Atheism, we can define agnostic ;)

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    I do love you american right wingers with your simplistic binary view of politics! I suppose the DDR was a Democratic Republic, it must of been because the name said so. As an Englishman I really do not feel the need to "disavow" the KKK, please keep it coming!
     
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    southern Conservatives founded and continue to populate the kkk today

    they were dems back then, but we did not want them and the right did, so they are on the right now - you can have them
     
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    Well, well you learn something every day, Koko thinks he is a socialist!
     
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    So you know you can't produce a chain of evidence. We already knew that. Nobody is 'demanding' anything from you pagan hicks, except posting a chain of evidence. You lack the education and scientific skills to do so.
     
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    But their largest memberships were in states like Indiana, California, and New York, and still are.
     
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    Aw, now they're getting really nervous, and posting unimportant drivel.
     
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    Ah, so ad homs are your 'chain of evidence'? Well, that's normal, for the pagan materialists.
     
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    Pot meet kettle?
    So much for religious values.
     
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    LOL … it's EXTREMELY important to see misguided, desperate jesus freaks who want their childish fantasies taught in science classes getting thrown out of U.S. courtrooms.

    Thanks again, Judge Jones... :thumbsup: :flagus:
     
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    Golly, a Brit. Get a grip then. When folks in the US refer to socialists and fascists, we see them as left wing. That doesn't map well for folks in Europe who have decided that only socialism is an available choice and run a spectrum between communism and fascim where republican libertarianism doesn't ever even enter into the equation. Perhaps this now explains to you why we might view this differently. I do recall that Britain has it's own history of racial segregation and violence, no? Try not to pretend too hard this isn't the case.
     
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    They are not, and never were "southern conservatives". They are, and always have been loyal democrats who are also pretty religious. That makes them neither conservative, or republican. If they find your brand of social inequity appealing, it is because they feelz with you.
     
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    I think you are being hard on your fellow countrymen, not all think that the Nazis were left wing and ignore nuance.
     
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    The socialists in the party left after Hitler took over. Of the two primary socialist leaders in the party, one was murdered by the SS and the other was exiled from the country. Hitler himself struggled to explain how the party was still "socialist" in any way, attempting to redefine the term. In reality, the Nazis privatized more business than even most Western capitalist countries did. Hitler supported privatizing businesses, eagerly debated socialists in his party, outlawed organized labor, and outlawed the remaining socialist party in the country (which was the primary political rival of the Nazi party)
     
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    If you substitute the word "privatized" with "nationalization" you would be much closer to the truth that you are now. And then you quibble over methods to enforce the tyranny they shackled Germany with. The national socialist experience in Germany is instructive, we shouldn't fail to learn it's lessons. Socialists come to power, they destroy any means of fighting back, and they become the dictators of horror. We see this over and over in all parts of the world. For you to ignore that, well... tis' telling.
     
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    No, my word choice was deliberate and accurate. For you to ignore the truth . . . tis' telling. There are more important historical lessons from this tragedy than just your personal political opportunism.
     
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    Ok, so you purposefully rewrote history to suit you. Zero points for credibility to you sir.... :roflol:
     
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    Everything I wrote down was historically accurate. Don't lecture people on credibility if you are not willing or capable to discuss the facts. If, when presented with historical facts, your only response is to spread your own historical inaccuracies, blame them on others, and post an emoji, then you aren't ready to come to the table.
     
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    Who is rewriting history?

    There are only two possibilities in Germany; do not imagine that the people will forever go with the middle party, the party of compromises; one day it will turn to those who have most consistently foretold the coming ruin and have sought to dissociate themselves from it. And that party is either the Left: and then God help us! for it will lead us to complete destruction - to Bolshevism, or else it is a party of the Right which at the last, when the people is in utter despair, when it has lost all its spirit and has no longer any faith in anything, is determined for its part ruthlessly to seize the reins of power - that is the beginning of resistance of which I spoke a few minutes ago. Here, too, there can be no compromise - there are only two possibilities: either victory of the Aryan, or annihilation of the Aryan and the victory of the Jew.
    Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one.

    Exactly as @yardmeat said redefining the term, from Hitlers own mouth!
     
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    Yep. The whole concept of socialism is that the means of production belong in the hands of "the people" (most often, though not always, ending up in the hands of the state). It is, by definition, absolutely antagonistic toward private ownership of the means of production. Hitler, however, thought it would be economic suicide to take private ownership away and, instead, advocated MORE privatization. Now, it would be true to say that the Nazis resorted to more nationalization later in the war . . . but so did the US . . . so did everyone involved in the war. Ideologically, post-Hitler Nazism had no connection to socialism, and was frequently opposed to it, regardless of their semantics. When Hitler initially took over, however, the party began supporting a massive privatization campaign.

    I don't say any of this in defense of socialism. I can virtually guarantee you that I'm to the right of @drluggit on economics. But I think people should be honest about history.
     
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