Trump Plans to Withdraw thousands of U.S. Troops From Germany, a Key NATO Ally

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  1. ErikH

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    To topple Assad was a core principle in Obamas "color revolution" concept.

    But USA international power had degraded enough that otehr powers can now block US interests. And honestly thats better for the world.

    Right now you are pushed back on your continent. As a teacher you should know thats the natural order of things. You did not believe you stay the global superpower forever?

    Thats international loss of power is also reflected in the way how your former allies turn away from you. Its not just Germany. France, Italy, Canada ect openly more and more dismiss your former leadership.

    As they say here, we enter the postamerican century now.
     
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    Germany war against Russia in 1917. Not a single soldier was needed from us to let Russia collapse, grandpa, you are not very fluent in history it appears.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A rampaging moderator taught me

    Jackassary is NOT against the rules






    Yes to independent thinking
    Jackassary is about repeating - same, same - consuming half pages over, pages.


    Y'think?
     
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    Really? IIRC hundreds of THOUSANDS of German soldiers died fighting the Russians in World War One.

    Had it not been for the severe losses inflicted on Russia by the Germans, the Bolshevist Revolution would most certainly not have taken hold.
     
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    You can't replace something with nothing. And that is what Europe is right now.
     
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    They probably would have done it without Trump. They knew what needed to be done. Trump just wants to take credit for everything he sees as positive.

    Germany has handled the pandemic very well........but the Trump USA has not. Some of the governors did a good job.......but there has been No leadership form the top........ just a lot of insane tweeting. and shaming everyone that opposes him Very unpresidential. The pandemic is far from being under control in the USA........with numbers rising . Many just don't take it seriously. Arrogance or stupidity but a lack of strong leadership is a factor. The whole thing has been mismanaged and chaotic. Trump just ca't be bothered to follow it through for the sake of the people . He only cares about HIS re election..and holding onto power. But that is just stating the obvious. ;-)
     
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    Yet what destroyed Russia was when we placed lenin in a train and drove him to Russia.

    Soldiers are worthless.
     
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    We are the bigger Economy and have more global influence. Beside that we dont want replace you. We enter a multipolar world.
     
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    Sure you can :) and the EU is not "nothing".
     
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    That's what losers claim.
     
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    Actually it's less than nothing. But I was being polite.
     
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    I completely forgot about Google Translate, it usually does an ok job, definitely a helpful tool.
    Based on what I've read the Robert Koch Institut has used these criteria right from the start. Whoever is infected with the virus and dies is classified as a Corona fatality, whether they died directly from the virus or not.
    They use two different categories, "gestorben an" (died from) and "gestorben mit" (died with). Thus, as already mentioned, the number of people that have died from their Covid-19 infection is definitely lower than the total number of Corona deaths.
    https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deuts...so-werden-corona-todesfaelle-gezaehlt,RtnpYVL
     
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    With all due respect, but when i visited USA i saw a loser country. You have so low standards compared to us. I could not imagine to live like that.
     
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    If the EU is nothing, what are you?

    A country with mass unemployment, lowest life expectancy in developed world, mass violence on the streets, an orange goon as president. No functional healthcare, no infrastructure, dysfunctional public service.

    As i said, i looked up the city you come from...your standard of life is something i could not imagine. Living im one roofed wood huts that would be used as garden house here. Worn down streets, rotten school.
     
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    Your entire post is a collection of lies. But I shouldn't be surprised at some juvenile whose formative years were based on his parents and grandparents bitterness about how the Cold War ended.

    Maybe you'll grow out of believing such idiocy.
     
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    More lies from "Sobo". Our so called German police officer. Though it Germany is such a great place don't know why they would need police forces in the first place.

    Maybe he's a meter maid.
     
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    Bizarre commentary once again. Was the USA never a great country because we had police ??

    You are losing it.
     
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    Of course would Trump like to be reelected. That is important for his feeling of selfworth. That aside, it has been a challenge for any leader to suddenly have to deal with a deadly virus! Instead of blaming each other, China and the US should have worked together to find the original cause and how to best combat the disease. One would think they are grown men with intelligence and common sense. China, at least, did try to be helpful by sending a planeload of masks to Washington. So did Russia!

    The way things now have developed into a hostile confrontation over the pandemic is downright stupid and reckless on Trumps side. One whistle blow and all the loyal sheep come running to eagerly support their bleating master!

    All the while it could very well have been the US who started the outbreak.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...in-united-states-china-official-says/12055278
     
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    I just read you send covid 19 survivors now 1.000.000 $ bills

    Oh and what lies?

    No country deals worse with corona tha usa, no other has more death.

    https://www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-cases-surpass-china.html

    Your life expectancy is lower than in any EU country, your child death rate is higher than in any EU country.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-is-us-life-expectancy-so-low

    Within 3 months you added 40 milliin unemployed.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackke...-desperately-need-a-plan-before-its-too-late/

    As for your standards, its a simple fact your infrastructure is rotten down and that your standards are way below ours. You live in wood huts.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/asce-gives-us-infrastructure-a-d-2017-3?r=DE&IR=T

    Your crime rate is gargantuan, you have more gun death each year than Afghanistan.

    Your rape rate is 21 times higher than Germany.

    I have eyes in my head and i can compare. I know how we live, i saw how you live. Your standards are not acceptable for. Whats your problem? You want force me to live in wood huts, have to pay 1 million if i get sick, enjoy gigantoc crime rates and worn down infrastructure?

    And again a personal lie about my family? What makes you think my parents and grandparents felt bitter about cold war ended? First thing my parents did was travel the world. My grandparents hated communism, my grandmother denied to enter the communist party even under threat of personal problems she might get.

    Infact its you who fells bitter how the cold war ended. It made Germany free and you cant dictate us any longer. Must hurt you alot.
     
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    Virtually everything you've ever posted on this forum about the United States "kid" is a lie or a gross misrepresentation.

    For example you fail to note regarding life expectancy in the U.S. that while it "technically" is ranked lower than any other western nation...that only four years separate life expectancy in the U.S. from the very top. Only a 5% difference.

    40 million people have not become unemployed in the U.S. in the last 3 months. It is just slightly over half that many.

    And despite what has been played up on television, violence and crime is far from common across the United States. I haven't locked my doors in years, despite living in low income areas.

    Regarding pictures of the town I used to live in that you love to post and then prattle mindlessly about, you can find low income, lower quality housing anywhere. Even in Germany. That doesn't make it representative of the community as a whole.

    You were banned before. It can happen again you know.
     
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    Why the insults? I never claimed as "Sobo" does regarding Germany that the U.S. has no enemies either. Nor have I ever claimed that the U.S. has no problems as he endlessly tries to indicate is true of his beloved Germany.
     
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    Wrong, it is over 40 million people that are unemployed here in the US and the figure is still rising
     
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    A 4 or 5 years lower life expectancy is a massive effect of lower standards. You have a lower life exepectancy than Slovenia. Why is your healthcare system so pathetic Dayton?

    As for crime levels, well with a 21 times higher rape rate than Germany and a 28 times higjer murder rate you must admit that rises some eye brows for a German.

    And yes, 40 million have become jnemployed in last 3 months.

    Actually its 44 million now

    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...nt-filings-economy-recession-2020-6?r=DE&IR=T

    Why does this not happen in Germany? Why are we able to hold the effects of Covid 19 low and you not?

    As for poverty, sure evry nation has. Thing is, the living conditions you have for middle class would be unacceptable here.

    I saw the wooden huts you guys call home. If i would be exchange studend and then send to your area, i would revolt to be have to live with a family that has to live like that.
     
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    There are a large number of very nice homes in the same general area as well. You calling places people live "wooden huts" is insulting. What do you have against "wood" anyway? Is that a German thing?

    American healthcare statistics are influenced mainly by the U.S. having large numbers of minorities including recent immigrants who on the whole are not as healthy as the core population.

    You're misinterpreting the information from Business Insider which itself is incomplete.
     
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    Why you send COVID-19 patients one Million $ bills over there?

    As for statistics, people with lowest Life expectancy are middle class white man and its even shrinking.

    Show me what is a nice home over there?

    This?

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    Such huts would not even be allowed here.
     

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