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Before you accuse others of ignorance you need to look in the mirror. If you think that corruption started with the Obama administration you must still believe that there is a Santa Clause.

 

Of course not. It does however contain far more evidence than the 'opinion' you provided.

Which part of the 'opinion' do you find lacking in evidence? That the MSM acknowledges the existence of a 'deep state', that they acknowledge that this 'deep state' is resisting Trump's policies, or that they view it doing so as positive? All of which were cited in the 'opinion piece' I linked...

 

Nope!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Try again

 

There is plenty of historian that have tried to define fascism. There is dozens of definition of that, and it's quite easy to pick the definition you like.

Fascism isn't strictly defined by it economic policy
If "a" belong to "b"
and "a" belong to "c"
That doesn't mean that "a"="c".

Do Trump have the whole support of finance capital ? It's quite unlikely, most newspapers owned by other billionaires or big financial group (the capital) opposed directly Trump. It doesn't make Trump someone good.

I think it's necessary I explain a little bit more my political views so you understand my global perspective on Trump :

I don't believe in growth. I don't believe in an unlimited economical expansion. One consequence of that is that I don't believe that there would be jobs for everyone. I suppose the future would be quite dark : we have consumed most ressources. "Green growth" won't happen, there won't be the magical new energy source that would solve all our problems. I'm not a scientist, not that I don't appreciate scientific deduction, but I don't hope for the technological progress to save the world. It's quite interesting to consider that we have destroyed some ressources we won't have considered such as sleep. People (and children) sleep less and less and it's a part of the explaination why the population is dumbing down.

I can't be angry against migrants, they're fleeing difficult situations, but when a politician says that a migrant don't take the job of someone else, I don't believe it because I don't think there is a unlimited amount of ressources, growth (and so an unlimited amount of jobs).
Among many consequences, when Trump pretend he would make "America great again", I by the way don't believe it. The oil, coal, gas have been consumed, it's gone forever, there is no going back. We have consumed more or around the half of those ressources, we're much more to compete for it and they're not as easily available they were once. America was "great" when it had a lot of ressources easily available. Energy and GDP are directly correlated.
Furthermore, american youth is deeply brain damaged by years of screen (tv, videogames and other recreative screen) and majijuana, to that we could add the fact that they're deeply in debt. The youth of a country is litteraly the future of the country. You want to know if the future of a country is brigth ? Look at his youth and you will know.

The tendancy of some right winged people to think we just have "to man up" won't solve that the energy have been consumed and it's gone forever, and we will have to do with much less. Should I really tell you how human being tend to behave when I don't believe in the great leftist revolution neither.there is a lack of ressources ? We had an overview when people fought for something that could be easily dealed without (toilet paper).

What do I believe in so ? Not a lot of things. Degrowth will happen, that we want or not, and I try (and often fail) to live a minimalist life to consume as few as I can.

So Trump ? The USA and the rest the developped world are on decline. He can't change that and no policy would be able to change that. He is a manipulator, a demagogue and a populist. He managed to capitalize on the despair of many people.
I have seen the ravage on of "free trade" (that Obama supported) and mass immigration on the lower working class. The fact that he want to limit both of them limit the distaste I have of him and I get why a part of the working class voted for him on that, because both of those issues is among the worse for them. Didn't Marx called migrants "the reserve army of the capital".
About immigration, does that mean that illegal migrants deserve to be ill treated ? Absolutly not.

Now we have finished that little disgression and seen the global view, let's go back to the first problem : Is Trump a fascist ?
_ Does he want to abolish any freedom ? No.
_ Does he want to change american constitution to make him the eternal leader of the USA ? No.
_ Does he want to prevent any election ? No.
_ Can a leader that don't want to abolish democracy to make him the eternal leader of his own country be a facist ? No.
_ Do Donald Trump represent significant problems, especially because of his lack of any measure when he talk ? Yes, for many reasons Mr "bigger button" and I "will shut you down" represent deep issues.

What is exactly a demagogue :
"What is a demagogue? He is a politician skilled in oratory, flattery and invective; evasive in discussing vital issues; promising everything to everybody; appealing to the passions rather than the reason of the public; and arousing racial, religious, and class prejudices—a man whose lust for power without recourse to principle leads him to seek to become a master of the masses. He has for centuries practiced his profession of 'man of the people'. He is a product of a political tradition nearly as old as western civilization itself."

As electoral campaign have turned into giant marketing campaign, demagogue behavour have became a norm, however there is a various degrees. We could notice that Trump stick much more accurately stick to any definition of a demagogue than he stick to the definition of fascism.

Fascist leader were commonly right winged demagogues. But all right winged demagogues aren't fascist

 

I do not care if it is the Trump fans, the progressive, liberal, conservative, left wing, or right wing media who claims the existence of a Deep State that is trying to "depose" Trump I do not believe that BS.

 

And there we have the root of your ramble. This isnt about historians; this is about political economy. There aren't dozens of definitions. There are core traits, such as the theory of the elites delivered by Pareto. That you have havent bothered to refer to those traits just made your responses irrelevant.

Here is an example of your ramble. I've already said that fascism is economics by mistake, not by design. Its very nature relegates economics. Did Fascist Germany utilise Keynesianism? Of course. Is Keynesianism a necessary part of fascism? Of course not. Keynesianism was merely applied because of a fascist militarism objective.

Who said he did? Its about how finance capital is used to maintain a social order and to deny individualism. We already see how Trump's apparently childish rants fits. Any challenge to his belief structure immediately leads to threat of financial ruin.

I'm not interested in "I believe". This isn't really about opinion, this is about consistency with the political economy. You could, for example, acknowledge the traits are met and not give a toss. Opinion is typically a game player around it. We already know that, given previous two party political consensus, democracy has been largely illusionary. Its how its used today which is consistent with fascism. Its used to reject intellectualism: "you're a Liberal, you can be ignored "; "academics are just biased, evidence can be ignored"; "Trump is a genius, lets take a bleach bath" etc etc etc.

America, like Britain, has always had an unfortunate outlook. The nature of imperialism, for example, is arguably behind the racism of today. Foreign policy hawkishness also ensures their place in the genocide ranks. But we have something even more insidious. All the political economic traits are met. America is therefore fascist. One thing we should note, however, is that fascists also tend to be crap. The theory of the elites, for example, is cretinous. Anti-fascism therefore can therefore still be effective. Folk have just got to get off their apathetic behinds...

 

If you want quality responses on your thread, perhaps you should try harder in your opening post. Let's be honest here, you posted the main body of an article and only added the generic leftist catchphrase of 'Orange man bad!'. It's almost embarrassing.

 

I'm going to try, one more time. Are you going to address an actual Fascist or not? Because you're still beating up on your invisible, theoretical "fascism" and not the fascist(me) who openly declared his fascism and put that fascism for political debate.

The argument that it was keynesian economics, is simply not true. That's asserting that the AXIS used the New Deal model under Roosevelt that had minimal impact until after the war. Furthermore, keynesian is closer to the Weimar Republic than Nazi Germany. Where the Weimar Republic vastly printed its reichmarks into insolvency. The Weimar Republic today is still the primer example #1 of Keynesian failures and is still to this day the greatest fear of any and all economists who studied it.

 

Fascists really do have an exaggerared kack understanding of economics. The New Deal, for example, has nothing to do with Keynesianism. Roosevelt's conservatism meant we have to wait for WW2 for Military Keynesianism. The Nazis had no economic spine to refer to. Any Keynesian effect was an accidental spillover of their nationalist fever. The stance is based on the political economic traits I mentioned. They're of course easily belittled, explaining why fascists are typically so reliant on crisis and the jackboot.