ANTIFA seizes 6 blocks in Seattle, and declares it a police free zone.

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  1. Rugglestx

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    It will be interesting to see how that plays out long term. A clear conflict between state law and federal law and the COTUS is developing.
     
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    Depends on how many people they're willing to kill.
     
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    Then you're all for this?
     
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    So you're saying these people are now conservatives? Odd with all the anti-conservative rhetoric coming from CHAD or whatever it's called now.

    Good news is, they shall not be needing federal funding now :)
     
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    For the 2nd Amen? Yes.

    For illegally taking over part of a city under a Democrat elected govt. No, as we are not living under a Tyrannical govt.
     
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    I didn't know who that was but thought the commercial was asinine.
     
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    Who the hell are you talkin to. I am 69 years old and I do not support antifa and I don't know where they even are. They seem to only come out when the white supremacists and Nazis do. Fox noise has fear-mongered everyone about Seattle. It's absolutely ridiculous. This is the hippie-ish part of Seattle anyway. Take a chill pill and change the channel get some reality for a change.
     
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    You posted :

    “They are not Democrats and we do not support any violence of any kind”

    Key word “we”... Who is “we”?

    What does it matter what area of town it is? They do not have the right to forcefully occupy it illegally any more than I do to occupy your house.

    A simpleton thing you post about Fox News, I’ve posted on here repeatedly that I don’t watch it. And that I don’t care for Trump nor did I vote for him. Anymore liberal generalization talking points I can correct for you?

    I do not need the news to tell me what is going on is illegal and unjustified. Common sense does that.
     
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    We is Democrats the Democratic party. Wherever you get your GOP propaganda, it is all the same bologna.. or just way out there. If it is baloney about Democrats, it is GOP propaganda... The Democrats are a political party the GOP is a rip-off fraud con... Much of it is just off the wall conspiracy bologna. Nothing that ever gets to the real world of journalism and law enforcement. And no no conspiracy.
     
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    For as long as I have been politically aware, conservative rhetoric has been mostly BS. A lot of it quite hateful. Most of it easily proven false. The latest funny really is the big AntiFa scare. Can an entire political ideology be so daft?

    Cons work best when just enough information is given, with little hints, so that the target supplies his ingrained prejudices and imagination to make the con personal and internalized. In a successful con, the target will thank you for the pleasure of being used.

    The calls for aggressive police action by those on the right just shows how the right has always been authoritarian. In fact, in political theory, right wing and authoritarian are practically synonymous. The right doesn’t want to hear what the protestors are protesting. They want to hide it away. Pretend things are other than they are. Suppress the protestors and blame it all on “antifa”. Not the real antiFa, but the fabricated “antifa” that was birthed in throngs of conservative circle jerks. That way we don’t have to discuss why so many conservatives are so opposed to an anti fascist group who pushes back on violent White supremacy groups, and a group that advocates tor fair treatment by the police, for Black people.

    Is not law and order just code for using the police to suppress Blacks and young liberals?

    In those polls in women’s magazines, Black and liberal men tend to get rated higher than conservative men.

    It is quite obvious where you are coming from.
     
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    You lost all legitimacy at saying those scumbags do not support the Dem party. I get why you would not want to claim them, but they belong to the left and the Dems. Look at the so called elected leadership allowing them to throw their temper tantum....which party are they from?

    The right has their own extreme scumbags gruops, but these rioters....that ain't them......
     
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    Most perfume commercials are asinine
     
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    But that's the whole point, who says what's tyrannical? Why is your judgment better than theirs?
     
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    You failure, well one of your many, is you description of them as protestors. They are rioters. And as such they should be dealt with as rioters.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/riot

    "a violent public disorder specifically : a tumultuous disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled together and acting with a common intent"

    So the English langue disagrees with your use of it's words...

    As to your other "points" they are the same ole liberal dribble about conservatives. It's the simple use of the word "racist" to try and browbeat people down and shame them. Problem for you is that you and yours have worn that simplistic and dishonest one trick pony out.

    The only ones that should be "suppressed" (yet again more simplicity on your part) are the ones breaking the law.

    Liberal talking points, predictable, simplistic and worn out. Yawn...

    Now what is fresh and original is how in the fury of your cries about the injustice of ole white men running the country for too long you nominate....wait for it.... an old white man as your POTUS nominee. Just one more example of the left tripping over their own clown shoes....You had Amy and you picked Joe...you damn sexists....
     
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    The facts that they still illegally occupy city blocks might be a hint they are not facing a tyrannical govt....

    But by all means if they feel they are indeed facing a tyrannical govt and it's forces then we shall see how much conviction they have if those forces ever move on them. I'd watch that broadcast.
     
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    Conviction is irrelevant, all that matters is the truth. Why do you seem to think that the willingness to hurt people affects the truth one way or the other?

    And why are you so willing to watch people hurt each other?

    Won't you at least try to answer my question? Who determines if the government is tyrannical?

    I think our present government is tyrannical. Do I, therefore, have the right to take up arms against it?
     
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    Well the two guys that ambushed the cop where right-wingers and there is much evidence of far-right people pretending to be antifa and starting trouble online and off. Try real journalism sometime and see what actually happens.... Antifa are Democrats like Nazi militias are Republicans..... But antifa only goes after Nazis, not violence against Jews blacks Muslims gays who are the actual spike in violence since Trump took over.
     
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    What is wrong with right wingers when they want to violently suppress their fellow citizens? It used to be that right wingers would got all high on their horses and claim moral superiority. Yet as these past few weeks have made quite clear, the morals of some conservatives is as dark and cold as their hearts.

    I think that people going to church is rather stupid. And it just isn’t right that those churches don’t have to pay taxes like the rest of us. If I thought like you, we could just see the strength of those people’s convictions by tossing in a few fire bombs to liven up the service.


    What kind of person says, oh they are protesting police brutality, let’s go give them some more police brutality?
     
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    The kind of person who doesn't want lunatic leftist riot mobs to burn down their city.

    You know, sane persons.
     
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    When I was a young man with a child on the way, I had moved into an apartment building with my girlfriend. When I got my electric bill, it seemed to be kind of on the high side. So to save money we didn’t watch much tv, we only turned on the bare minimum lights and kept the thermostat almost too cold. Next month, the bill was even higher. To make a long story short, what was happening was that the apartments were wired up so that each meter was connected to two apartments. The manager would have one tenant pay the bill, while charging the other tenant a set amount each month for electricity. Thus I was paying for my neighbor’s electricity and the manager was still collecting money from my neighbor. When I confronted the manager, he played ignorance. When I reached the owner, he too claimed ignorance, but agreed to reduce my rent to compensate. Although I was satisfied financially, I was really mad about it. Besides they were still doing it to everyone else.

    I considered my options. I thought about writing a note and sending a copy to every apartment to let everyone else know what was happening. But no. I thought that most would just let it go. The whole sheeple thing. Besides these people that ran the apartment came off to me as real sleezy. So I plotted my payback. Under our apartment was a crawl space that ran the whole length of the building. I had an infant child and two months left on our lease. So I began throwing bags of diapers into the crawl space. The last time I went down there it was getting pretty bad smelling, and I had spread it around.

    In one of the other buildings, at one end there was a little basement that housed the laundry room and another room that was always locked. It was in January and the temperatures at night were hitting minus nine degrees. I had just finished my laundry and got a bright idea. I undid all the hoses on the washing machines and opened all the valves wide open. The next morning there was a foot of solid ice on the floor.

    There was this one handicapped parking space that the manager would always park in. One day I stumbled upon a couple of stove bolts. One dark morning, as I left to work, somehow they ended up propped behind his rear tires. And they were wide fancy tires. When I came home from work, the car was still sitting in the handicapped parking space except its rear tires were as flat as can be. Later a neighbor told me that a police officer had come by and ticketed him earlier for having parked where he did.

    I’m sure that they learned nothing from it and continued screwing people for the rest of their lives. However, they did have a few really bad days that they otherwise would not of had.



    However, the protests, these protests seem to have reached critical mass. It seems things are going to really change this time. If it took a few broken windows and a couple of burned out buildings, well sometimes that is just what it takes.,
     
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    That was a perfect analogy for the current situation with the leftist riot mob protests.

    Irrational, belligerent people thinking they can somehow fix a bad situation with bags of fermenting crap and slashed tires, because it's easier than finding constructive solutions that might actually work, and not just make everything stink like fermenting crap.

    Such is the clown world of leftist insanity.
     
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    They are not protestors, they are rioters. I’ve posted the definition of riot multiple times. The scumbags in Seattle fit it perfectly. Look it up yourself at this point.

    Nobody want to use force against American citizens as you imply. They want to use it against those breaking the law. The same way we arrest criminals all the time that are American citizens.

    Ridiculous post by you.
     
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    Right-wing extremist suck.

    Antics does not only go after Nazis.

    Is Ben Shapiro a Nazi?

    Is Milo Yiannopoulos a Nazi?

    Just two examples of many.

    How ironically comical that you want to call me uninformed and in the same post you state such incorrect information about antifa.
     
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    Milo yes Ben Shapiro might as well be.
     
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    They are breaking the law. That’s not opinion that’s fact. If you want to justify it you can, I will not. Have you even read their demands? They are not about social justice.

    I don’t want to watch people hurt, but if they are hurt in the commission of a crime I have no pity for them.

    And yet again the liberal hypocrisy shows its true colors. You would not be so understanding if they were in your house or business.
     

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