Refute the Newsday story then. 2 years earlier doesn't require quickly although telegraph signals travel at near the speed of light. I showed how over 100 Texas newspapers had printed stories during those two years it was not a secret and no proof it was. The REAL date that slavery ended was December 6th. The 19th of June is just an arbitrary date based on when one city had the Union forces arrive and take control, other Texas cities were later and slavery WAS STILL LEGAL IN THE UNITED STATES.
The thing is Arbor, like Ego and HTM I'd never heard of Juneteenth either. Then again like most teachers I have an excuse - since this happens right after school ends most of us are on a weeks-long bender and don't sober up until the beginning of July at the soonest, and maybe early September at the latest.
Most holidays in this country are arbitrary dates, or do you have Jesus's birth certificate available?
December 6th does seem more fitting, at least from an official perspective, but June 19th does make sense from a "facts on the ground" perspective: In light of the fact that it was Union soldiers, not politicians, who freed Blacks from slavery, it does make sense to commemorate the event on June 19th. Freedom isn't free. The Declaration of Independence no more freed Americans from Great Britain than the Emancipation Proclamation freed Americans from slavery. In both cases, freedom was purchased by American soldiers, sailors and marines, not American politicians.
No reasonable person could extract that from my post. Now you want to segregate science? Should there be black science?
Good point. If I recall correctly, many astronomers think Jesus was born in the Spring, circa 4 to 6 AD, and that the celebration was moved to December 25 to coincide with the Roman celebration of Sol Invictus. Then there's this interesting tidbit of information I just stumbled across:
The Emancipation Proclamation was issued in 1863. This freed the slaves in Confederate States but they were not actually released from bondage in this part of the South until June 19th 1865, when the Union Army came to Galveston Bay, Texas. In the opening video, the young lady mentions that this law wasn't adhered to throughout the Confederate states. It took an additional show of force by the Union Army to secure their freedom. The Thirteenth Amendment freed the slaves in the rest of the country. Regarding numbers one and 5, Juneteenth has been celebrated for more than 150 years. If there is an older celebration, who knows? Who even brought that up? I'm not sure what you mean by number 3. Are you questioning whether or not former slaves celebrated Juneteenth across the South? No one is arguing number two. The 13th Amendment freed the slaves throughout the entire country. As to number four, there were watch parties in anticipation of the announcement of the Emancipation Proclamation, so news did get to some people by word of mouth. That doesn't change the fact that there were people who were not told by their owners that they were free. This link is to NPR (National Public Radio). That is definitely a credible source. Look at the words of someone who was freed (Smalley). She said that her "master" didn't tell them that they were free. I'm not surprised that a slave owner would want to hide this fact. I'll take her word for (and NPR's): https://www.npr.org/2015/06/19/4158...-day-slaves-in-texas-were-told-they-were-free As for whether or not it makes sense to celebrate Juneteenth, the event was significant to those slaves who gained their freedom on that day and it's still meaningful to many people today. Since that's the case, it makes sense for those people to celebrate it.
Please - I am not segregating anything. But interesting you should choose that word. When one innovates or pioneers, that art is of their making. Many will follow, but there is only one pioneer.
What would you call it then? If it rose from their lives and experiences? They, themselves, called it black music - so who are you or anyone else to deny them that?
They were released as the union forces captured and controlled the areas. The general entering Galveston has no specific historical significance it was just one city, other Texas cities were occupied and those slaves liberated on later dates. Slavery was still legal in the United States after Galveston was entered by Union Forces that is NOT the day all slaves were finally freed. Your one woman does not discount the fact it was WIDELY reported throughout Texas for the two years between the Lincoln issuing the proclamation and Union Forces entering Galveston and there were FREE blacks in Texas who could read. It has no national significance in slave history it is specific to Texas. That date of national significance is December 6th.
I don't celebrate his birth and there is no historical record of it but we do have the recorded history of slavery and their liberation and June 19th is of very little importance.
The facts on the ground it was just one small city in Texas. The Emancipation freed Confederates from slavery, slavery was legal in America till after the war and the passage of the 13th Amendment. June 19th was just one small city in Texas for other Texas cities it occurred later. Why not celebrate it during February during black history month if not on the day the 13th was ratified.
Little Richard would disagree with you about who created Rock -n- Roll (Jazz had multiple influences). I have an Aunt who has degrees in this stuff and lived in Detroit at the height of the Motown era who would be able to provide a definitive answer but I'm not even going to argue about this topic. Have fun.
Chuck Berry is considered the originator, Little Richard just jumped on the train after listening to Ike Turner who some say recorded the first rock and roll tune Rocket 88. Jerry Lee Lewis along with his cousins Mickey Gilley and Jimmy Swaggart were also defining the sound during that time. But the basics get back to Texas Swing mixing with Mississippi Blues. One thing for sure it's all AMERICAN MUSIC we ALL can enjoy and play.
