Is God Responsible For The Evil In The World? No He Is Not.

Sorry, but it is you who is Wrong.

"Adolf Hitler was baptized in the Roman Catholic Church. In 1904, he was confirmed at the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Linz."

" Josef Stalin was baptised on 29 December 1878. He was also a choirboy, singing both in church and at local weddings."

They were both Christians

These below were also Christians:

Jeffrey Dahmer who killed 17 people!

Harold Shipman who killed 250 people!

John Wayne Gacy who killed 33 people!

Henry Howard Holmes who killed more than 30 people!

Pedro Lopez who killed 300 people!

Ted Bundy who killed still an unknown number of people!

Mikhail Popkov who killed 81 people!

Daniel Camargo Barbosa who killed over 150 people!

Pedro Rodrigues Filho who killed over 100 people!

Andrei Chikatilo who killed 53 people!

Anatoly Onoprienko who killed 52 people!

Samuel Little who killed 93 people!

Willy Pickton who killed 49 people!

Gary Ridgway who killed over 90 people!

Alexander Pichushkin who killed 62 people!

Tiago da Rocha who killed 39 people!

Moses Sithole who killed an unknown number of people!

Serhiy Tkach who killed over 100 people!

Gennady Mikhasevich who killed an unknown number of people!

Vera Renczi who killed 35 people!

Vasili Komaroff who killed 33 people!

Fernando Hernández Leyva who killed 137 people!

Volga Maniac who killed an unknown number of people!

Karl Denke who killed more than 42 people!

Francisco das Chagas de Brito who killed an unknown number of people!

Cedric Maake who killed 38 people!

Mariam Soulakiotis who killed 177 people!

Juan Corona who killed an unknown number of people!

Fritz Haarmann who killed 24 people!

Béla Kiss who killed more than 24 people!

Yvan Keller who killed 150 people!

Ronald Dominique who killed an unknown n7umber of people!

Earle Nelson who killed an unknown number of people!

Patrick Kearney who killed an unknown number of people!

William Bonin who killed a minimum of 21 people!

Larry Eyler who killed several people!

Randall Woodfield who killed as many as 44 people!

Randy Steven Kraft who killed 16 people!

Robert Lee Yates who killed an unknown number of people!

Carroll Cole who killed 16 people!

Charles Ray Hatcher who killed 20 people!

Robert Hansen who killed 21 people!

Ángel Maturino Reséndiz who killed 15 people!

Chester Turner who killed 15 people!

Carl Eugene Watts who killed over 80 people!

Jake Bird who killed 46 people!

Richard Ramirez who killed 13 people!

Peter Sutcliffe who killed 13 people!

Lorenzo Gilyard who killed 13 people!

Donald Henry Gaskins who killed 110 people!

William Suff who killed 12 people!

Kenneth Bianchi who killed 12 people!

Joseph Christopher who killed 12 people!

Herb Baumeister who killed 11 people!

Vaughn Greenwood who killed 11 people!

Nannie Doss who killed 11 people!

Anthony Sowell who killed 11 people!

Milton Johnson who killed 17 people!

Daniel Lee Siebert who killed 10 people!

Joseph James DeAngelo who killed 10 people!

Bobby Joe Long who killed 10 people!

Henry Louis Wallace who killed 10 people!

Angelo Buono Jr. who killed 10 people!

Roger Dale Stafford who killed 34 people!

Richard Biegenwald who killed 9 people!

Joseph Paul Franklin who killed 20 people!

Keith Hunter Jesperson who killed 8 people!

Rodney Alcala who killed 9 people!

Christopher Wilder who killed 13 people!

Michael Wayne McGray who killed 17 people!

My oh my! All of them Christians!



*** But saving the best for last > > > > > >

George W. Bush Jr. who killed over one million innocent men, women, and children! Yeah, he is a church-going Christian and believes in Jesus Christ. Ain't that nice?

It seems to me that Christians have an insatiable propensity for murder. Don’t you think so too?

 

Okay that does it for me.
I don't seriously debate or discuss issues with people who
post that kind of stuff and take that approach to
argumentation.

 

I can hear a thundering "duh" from the congregation this afternoon. I'm here to tell ya'!

Exactly. This uh, what should I call it ... "supreme being" ... reckoned mankind needed a prod and a few miracles to prove He exists. So what does He do? Oh yeah, He decides to do a whazoo conjuring act for a handful of wretched & primitive already-superstitious-to-the-bone morons! Now get this - He doesn't do His thing for the whole world to see (maybe because He thought the earth was flat and didn't extend passed the Sea of Galilee) but just for these idiots in the middle east 'cause He figured their word of mouth was all the rest of mankind needed to put out the word of God. It may sound stupid but He wasn't far wrong. Just look at the stumble-bums reciting from the Bible and proclaiming "truth" exceeding that of the Torah and the Koran. So let us fall to our knees, O' dear Brother, and trust in the word of those ancient men who also believed that horsehair and rice turned into snakes and maggots if left to soak in water overnight.

 

You didn't even bother to post a link to the source for all that
irrational assertion up there. But no matter, any source that
makes the claims you posted up there would be a source
that asserts outrageous and ridiculous nonsense.

When you post that kind of stuff up there, you lose all credibility.

When you post such as this down below, you lose all credibility.
_______________
" George W. Bush Jr. who killed over one million innocent men,
women, and children! Yeah, he is a church-going Christian and believes
in Jesus Christ. Ain't that nice? "___Thingamabob
______________

Even the people "on your side" of the ideological spectrum
recognize that up there to be irrational and non-serious. You
only hurt yourself and your reputation when you make such
outrageous, preposterous, and ludicrous claims.

You gain nothing by posting such as that. The message you
send is that you're not going to engage in a serious exchange
of ideas --- rather you're going to assert as true what is obviously
irrational and outrageous nonsense.

What you posted up there is obviously unreasonable, illogical, and
nonsensical. President George W. Bush Jr. is no more a murderer
than any other national leader that made a decision to go to war
in what he thought at the time, was in the nation's best interest.
Its reasonable to disagree with his decision to go to war -- but
its ludicrous to call him a murderer in light of what happened on
9/11

Henceforth I am not going to take anything you post serious.

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The First Victims of the First Crusade

THE first victims of the First Crusade, inspired in 1096 by the supposedly sacred mission of retaking Jerusalem from Muslims, were European Jews. Anyone who considers it religiously and politically transgressive to compare the behavior of medieval Christian soldiers to modern Islamic terrorism might find it enlightening to read this bloody story, as told in both Hebrew and Christian chronicles.

The message from the medieval past is that religious violence seldom limits itself to one target and expands to reach the maximum number of available victims.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/opinion/sunday/the-first-victims-of-the-first-crusade.html

 

EVERYTHING I wrote in that post is 100% true.

With that in mind, I guess you'll want to remove Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin from your list because they were national leaders who made a decision to go to war in what they thought was in the nation's best interest. Actually, Stalin had the decision foisted upon him so he's in clear no matter what, right?

Yes, I expected you would say that so I brought someone along who I know you'll take seriously:

 

This paragraph is particularly poignant:

"Cultural ignoramuses portrayed President Obama’s references to the Crusades and the Inquisition at the recent National Prayer Breakfast as an excuse for Islamic terrorism, but the president’s allusions could and should have been used as an opportunity to reflect on the special damage inflicted in many historical contexts by warriors seeking conquest in the name of their god."

Unfortunately, there are too many inhabitants of this earth who have "good" tattoo on one hand ... and "bad" tattooed on the other one as a quick-reference crib sheet to any subject under the sun.

 

I concur.

 

False.

When you post that kind of stuff up there up-thread you
lose all credibility.

When you post such as this down below, you lose all credibility.
_______________
" George W. Bush Jr. who killed over one million
innocent men, women, and children! Yeah, he is a church-going
Christian and believes in Jesus Christ. Ain't that nice? "___Thingamabob
______________

Even the people "on your side" of the ideological spectrum
recognize that up there to be irrational and non-serious. You
only hurt yourself and your reputation when you make such
outrageous, preposterous, and ludicrous claims.

You gain nothing by posting such as that. The message you
send is that you're not going to engage in a serious exchange
of ideas --- rather you're going to assert as true what is obviously
irrational and outrageous nonsense.

What you posted up there is obviously unreasonable, illogical, and
nonsensical. President George W. Bush Jr. is no more a murderer
than any other national leader that made a decision to go to war
in what he thought at the time, was in the nation's best interest.
Its reasonable to disagree with his decision to go to war -- but
its ludicrous to call him a murderer in light of what happened on
9/11




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I see that you've only copied your previous response and pasted it here a second time.



You know, repeating yourself is a form of self-hypnosis but it lends no more credibility than the first time you said it. Anyway, if your source sucks you can bet the info you find there sucks too. Truth only needs to be said once.

 

No no no no no. What he said isn't ludicrous nor does it hurt his credibility. You're just sensitive to "inconvenient" facts. Christians are no more "holy" than anyone else. They do evil too, but they hide behind being "saved". It's a childish game.

 

Instead of posting calm polite carefully-reasoned well-thought
out rational argumentation, you instead post cartoons and
huge pictures and video bytes as if they were serious
arguments. They are not.

You post huge fonts that are colored as if doing that made
your points more convincing. It does not.

Your "cartoon arguments" and "cartoon points" and your
"picture points" are not serious argumentation. Mockery
and ridicule are not arguments.

Even the people "on your side" of the ideological spectrum
recognize that your posts are irrational and non-serious. You
only hurt yourself and your reputation when you make such
outrageous, preposterous, and ludicrous claims as you have
made up-thread.

You gain nothing by posting such as that. The message you
send is that you're not going to engage in a calm serious exchange
of ideas --- rather you're going to assert as true what is obviously
irrational and outrageous nonsense -- and you're going to mock
and ridicule people who calmly disagree with you -- with insulting
pictures and video bytes.


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False.

 

Oh wow of shitOhDear, I'm convinced by the power of your argument! not

 

That is incorrect.
By the way, Five {5} no's in a row is very impressive and
very convincing.

_____

What I said is correct:
When anybody post such as this down below, they lose all credibility.
_______________
" George W. Bush Jr. who killed over one million
innocent men, women, and children! Yeah, he is a church-going
Christian and believes in Jesus Christ. Ain't that nice? "___Thingamabob
______________
.
What is posted up there is obviously unreasonable, illogical, and
nonsensical. President George W. Bush Jr. is no more a murderer
than any other national leader that made a decision to go to war
in what he thought at the time, was in the nation's best interest.
Its reasonable to disagree with his decision to go to war -- but
its ludicrous to call him a murderer in light of what happened on
9/11

Don't just ignore what I said, and post some mockery and ridicule.
Instead give me a solid argument that clearly demonstrates that
George W. Bush Jr. is a murderer because he made the decision
to go to war in light of 9/11.

 

Vulgarity noted.

 

Nope.

 

False.

Jeffery Dahmer was not a Christian when he killed
those people. For your point to stand Jeffery Dahmer
would have had to have been a Christian at the time
he killed those people. If he became a Christian after
he had killed them -- while he was in prison, then
your point fails. And if he did became a Christian
is was most certainly AFTER he had killed them
and while he was in prison.

Also it is not even clear that Jeffery Dahmer actually
became a Christian while he was in prison. But again
that does NOT matter --- for your point to stand he
would have had to have been a Christian when he
committed the murders.

Start quote.
Dahmer spent 10 months in jail, and after he left, he
went on to snuff out 12 more lives. Only the alleged
God that he professed to follow knows if he was truly
a born again Christian. However, an examination of
his life suggests that the most famous cannibal of all
time was a liar, as well as a murderer."
End quote.
https://guardianlv.com/2015/05/jeffrey-dahmer-was-a-born-again-christian/

 

Is that 100% bald assertion?

I do not believe that you can produce one shred of
credible evidence that demonstrates that Pedro Lopez
was a Christian.

Give me one, just one {1}, credible piece of solid evidence
that Pedro Lopez was a Christian -- and be sure to
post the link to the source.

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Nope is not an argument.

Give me an argument that demonstrates that
George W. Bush Jr. is a murderer.
______

What I said is correct:
When anybody post such as this down below, they lose all credibility.
_______________
" George W. Bush Jr. who killed over one million
innocent men, women, and children! Yeah, he is a church-going
Christian and believes in Jesus Christ. Ain't that nice? "___Thingamabob
______________
.
What is posted up there is obviously unreasonable, illogical, and
nonsensical. President George W. Bush Jr. is no more a murderer
than any other national leader that made a decision to go to war
in what he thought at the time, was in the nation's best interest.
Its reasonable to disagree with his decision to go to war -- but
its ludicrous to call him a murderer in light of what happened on
9/11

Don't just ignore what I said, and post some mockery and ridicule.
Instead give me a solid argument that clearly demonstrates that
George W. Bush Jr. is a murderer because he made the decision
to go to war in light of 9/11.

 

Give me an argument that refutes this below:
You saying, "Sorry, but it is you who is wrong" does
not refute this below:

On Josef Stalin:
Start quote.
"During his time in power, Stalin had a complex relationship with religion.
He officially adopted the Russian Communist Party’s stance on religion,
claiming atheism and continuing the tradition of teaching atheism in
schools and propagating the idea that religion was only damaging to a
perfect communist society. Stalin even took it further than his predecessor,
Lenin, and initiated a nationwide campaign to destroy churches and
religious property and even persecute and kill church officials.3 It is
said that under Stalin, the Russian Orthodox Church went from
50,000 to 500 open and operating churches.4

Stalin once said:
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God… all this talk about
God is sheer nonsense.5:__Josef Stalin

But for all accounts and purposes, Stalin was a hardcore atheist
until the day he died.
End quote.
https://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin/

________________

On Adolph Hitler:
Start quote.
Otto Strasser was a German politician and an early member of the Nazi Party,
he together with his brother Gregor Strasser, was a leading member of the
party's left-wing faction . . . Strasser stated that he was disappointed with
Hitler because:[80]

"We are Christians; without Christianity Europe is lost. Hitler is an atheist."
— Otto Strasser

________


Ernst Hanfstaengl was a German-American businessman and intimate friend
of Adolf Hitler . . . .He later described Hitler to be an atheist to all intents
and purposes:[81]

"He was to all intents and purposes an atheist by the time."
— Ernst Hanfstaengl
End quote.
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#Hitler_on_atheism

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Give me just one {1} credible piece of evidence that
Jake Bird was a Christian. And be sure to give me
the link to your source. And I don't mean merely
somebody's mere assertion that merely issues a
proclamation that Jake Bird was a Christian. I mean
some hard solid evidence that Jake Bird was a
Christian.



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Bush contrived a rush to an unjustified war that killed over a million Iraqis in his quest for revenge against Saddam-the-butcherer.

I know the right has an "answer" for everything, but too bad. The truth is the truth. And denying it creates an instant loss of credibility.

 

I couldn’t agree with you more.

This is absolutely true and of the utmost importance …. this thing about "being saved" and “absolution”, the idea that you can commit any amount of the most heinous atrocities and be “absolved” by Christian hocus-pocus. It gives the sinner a free conscious of whatever he/she has done, leaving no responsibility in consequence. Here is a true (and personal) example of it:

Some years ago I was thinking about “the Son of Sam” David Berkowitz and his crimes. I had read several accounts of his criminal activity and thought I understood why and when he lost touch with any morals he might have had. It was his neighbour’s dog that deprived our dear David of sleep and sleep deprivation is a well-known cause of temporary (at least) insanity. So, I thought to myself, “Now there’s a man who could be an asset to humanity. A man who did some horrendous things and could now (in retrospect) teach us a lesson on what he SHOULD have done rather than shoot that dog and spiral out-of-control thereafter.” So I found his prison address and wrote him … and he replied! He’s become a Christian convert you see and I figured all-the-better that he could set down his thoughts to help all of us who’ve become enraged for one reason or another and tell us what he “should have done” in other words what we should do in such circumstances. So I asked him in my second letter to him but all I got in return was “Jesus has forgiven me”. In my third letter, I asked if he didn’t maybe feel some responsibility to enlighten his fellow man on a better way to endure the hardships of community-living but he just repeated his first statement. The guy doesn’t give a shyt about the rest of us! Jesus forgave him, you see and that’s all that matters.

And then we all know about the untold number of priests who’ve been running amok raping children and getting off scot-free because they’ve been absolved by the clergy so no police report was forthcoming. The children are bonker’d for life of course but who cares as long as the offending men of the cloth are free of guilt! That's all that matters.

 

A wordy and repetitive cry from a drowning man without a life-vest.