Ozone therapy good for Covid-19?

Ozone is cheap!

I was listening to some doctor on youtube, describing covid patients 'gasping for air', the point he was making was that the ventilators were designed for people who had trouble breathing because the muscles used for breathing were weak or not functioning, so it's like an artificial lung, that's my understanding of 'intubation'. The doctor was saying that it doesn't work for covid patients because their breathing aparatus isn't the problem, the problem is that covid prevents oxygen getting into the bloodstream. But, caveat, I don't know if the guy was a quack, or what, I mean, it's on YouTube, where there are lot of wackos.

So, I thought to myself, what about Ozone therapy? That's what it does, it gets oxygen to the blood, it's been great for viral infections, that sort of thing, It's been around for a century, and a lot is known about it, so i googled it, and found these sources,

A group in Texas is on this, 'Texas Right To Know"
https://www.texasrighttoknow.com/

In Texas, the governing board modified the rule to allow doctors to try Ozone therapy is nothing else was working, which is good news for Texans, I don't know about other states
https://www.ptcommunity.com/wire/te...ifies-access-ozone-therapy-treatment-covid-19

This apparently has been studied with effective results in China, and Italy, as I understand it. So, everyone, get on the band wagon, and write to your congressman and senators demanding that Congress look into this as a possible valid therapy. but, I don't know, really, I'm just joe average with a TV set like eveyrone else.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04366089
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32374009/
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/jmv.26040
https://globalent.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Corona-Published-1.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3312702/

 

ozone scars the lungs

 

True inhaled ozone induces pulmonary edema. What they are talking about is re-infusing one's own ozonized blood. From what I know, this is at best an alternative treatment with unproven effectiveness and potential large side effects (ozone is a poison). I wouldn't bank my money on this solving the covid crisis.

 

Yes, and what does chemo do ?

Just because there are side effects doesn't mean it's a bad thing, especially if it can save your life for some temporary discomfort.

Ozone therapy has been around for a long time, there are right ways and wrong ways to administer it. Consult a specialist.

 

I linked to some studies, look them over, thank you.

what they show is that it is an idea worth looking into, given good preliminary results. I'm certain it will do better than lysol, for **** sakes.

Texas Medical Board clarifies their policy on alt med precedures, i.e., 'ozone therapy:

Mrs. Hemphill just referenced item #37 from the World Medical Association Helsinki Ethical Responsibilities, talking about this otherwise unproven or unique therapy, which to us as board staff in reading that clearly, put it in under our CAM [Complementary and Alternative Medicine] rule – under the CAM rule as long as the physician documents that he or she has tried other conventional methods, if any exist, they can certainly move on to an alternative therapy and that is exactly where we felt this ozone therapy was and that rule 200 created the ability for physicians to use that as long as they documented it. So that is why we felt that the generally accepted standard of care rule that exists under board rule 190.8 did not need to be amended to say "without informed patient consent," because the focus of Mrs. Hemphill's request was on what was otherwise a CAM therapy… it is unnecessary and the rule as written now under 190.8 does not prohibit the use of ozone as long as they comply with board rule 200."


If all else fails, I'd do it in a heart beat, if it were me.

But I sure as hell wouldn't inject lysol.

 

This is an example of how primitive our medical system is. The body needs oxygenated blood to circulate throughout the body. And coronavirus infection of the lungs fills your lungs with fluid and prevents oxygen's route through the lungs and into the bloodstream.

If only there were a way to put oxygen into the body through a tube taking blood out of the body, infusing it with oxygen and pumped back into the body. (Like they do with kidney dialysis) But, of course, there's no way to know if such a technique would be able to keep oxygen-rich blood in enough supply to feed the brain and keep it from dying.

 

The method you describe has existed for a long time. It is called extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO).

https://www.thoracic.org/patients/patient-resources/resources/what-is-ecmo.pdf

As with everything in medicine, there are side effects associated with using the method, as listed in the cited document. In long term use.it appears to damage blood cells.

ECMO is an approved method for treating covid patients. Why is it not more widely used? My guess is that it is more expensive to use than ventilators.

 

In the information sheet that you linked to says that a specialist is required to operate the machine and they need to take a class on it. My guess is that there aren't enough specialists to keep up with demand from all the coronavirus patients.

There are also some side effects like Kidney damage, and the sheet says that it can't save lives it only is a temporary method. At some point, they are going to have to take the patient off the machine and it's live or die.

 

That's unfortunately the case. There are no silver bullets. The same goes for positive pressure ventilation. It eventually damages the lungs and reduces the breathing reflex. One major complication is to wean patients off the ventilator. The longer they are on, the more difficult it is. That's why pulmonary rehabilitation is so important in recovery from this dreadful disease.