Virus Cases Are Soaring in Texas. But Closing Down Again Is a ‘Last Option.’

So, you don't think the 20-30 year olds are going to bring covid home to their older parent and grandparents? I have a socially very active teenager at home. Social distancing is a moot point for him. I know the challenges.

 

You were supposed to stay home. You were supposed to lock your doors, cower in your basement, socially distance, and wait for the coronapocalypse to blow over. The worst thing you could do is be in a crowd. Unless that is, you were protesting. Protesting Trumps everything. If you were thinking about joining a peaceful protest, or even a riot, you were encouraged to abandon the safety of your bunker and get out into the streets. Progressives wanted boots on the ground, and the lockdown was suddenly unimportant.
Apparently, the Kung Flu virus discriminates. Anti-Trump mobs are totally safe. Trump crowds are dangerous carriers of death and disease and will, no doubt, cause the explosive return of the Chinese Death Virus. The hypocrisy is obvious…

 

The irony is funny, all the

Texas is currently pumping the brakes on the reopening while you're providing longwinded nonsense responses on this thread.


Turn on the news.

 

Right. That age group never did stop socializing, especially if they couldn't go to work during the shut down. House parties had smaller groups of people for the most part than having all the bars reopen at 25%, then 50%, of capacity. A spike was expected, but I think the size of the spike came as a surprise.

12 bars were shut down over the weekend for exceeding capacity limits or not following social distancing rules.

Shut downs or not, the 20-30 years olds are the "most invincible", and the most social. What you said about your teenager is a good example. The entire "Covid experience" for the young is a moot point.

 

yeah, that was wrong, I get that they were trying to address cases of blacks wearing masks were being harassed by police and security, but that happened early on, one would hope those people have all been fired by now or at least realize the error of their ways

 

Well, the timing of the spike in Texas' large cities starting about 3-4 weeks after the beginning of the George Floyd protests has no correlation, I'm sure. We'll just call it "20-30 year olds partying at the bars," and leave it at that.

 

Let me address something about masks: The only masks that are effective is the N95 masks(well, there's a recent development on masks from a Chinese company that can block out 90% and they're planning on selling to the general public). All of the other masks may at best LIMIT transmission, but you're not protecting anybody with what's basically the dental masks.

Not to say don't wear a mask, etc. It's to say that the effectiveness, once understated is now being overstated. We need to stop the kneejerk reactions and start being reasonable and methodical in our thinking. We kneejerk reacted at the first instance of coronavirus, and we're kneejerking again.

Be Stoic in the moment. Also, I agree with Lonestar. The protests, which also involved arresting the son of a bitches also got our law enforcement sick as well(that's just brilliant!). Prior to May 25th, we had a plan of attack. We were reasonable, the coronavirus was under control.

Then, the video happened and all hell in a basket as people overreacted(and violently acted) and we're here now. It might be the greatest example of my ultimate point: Protests are counterproductive, the only reason anything gets accomplished from them is to appease the mob in question.

Hopefully, illness and death can be a chilling effect on that level of stupidity.

 

Sorry Jay, it's been long enough. Its time for us to start taking personal responsibility now. It all on us in the US if this thing gets out of control again !!!

 

It's "okay" if they go home and "kill grandma".

Houston is always oppressively humid. By the end of May, it's also close to 100 degrees every day. It would be next to impossible for most people to march for a mile or two in a mask without taking the mask off from time to time, at least, for "a breather".

Houston, June 1st...George Floyd Protest....

 

The N95 is effective at preventing YOU from getting the virus, especially while taking care of the infected. But any mask is effective at protecting OTHERS from you. Anything that prevent the mucus and saliva droplets from freely travelling in the air help in preventing the infection you could transmit to someone else.

They're not saying to wear a mask to protect you. They're saying wear a mask to protect others.

 

As you can see from the picture, their attempts at social distancing are also a massive epic failure. The great irony is, if we did reopen(and if Floyd wasn't killed), I believe we would have had a much slower growth spike. No governing official wants to acknowledge the obvious but that doesn't stop us from acknowledging it.

 

errr. Most of them have masks.

 

The mask prevents you from spreading the disease, but not from getting the disease, right? So, one superspreader, especially one speaking or yelling loudly, and not wearing a mask could infect everyone who is wearing a mask. Isn't that the "theory"? Or are we changing the "scientific" rules du jour, depending on what group we are referring to?

 

Not exactly. Its been proven mask wearing significantly reduces the risk of trasmission combined with with hand washing and probably most importantly a correctly fitting mask.
No one likes wearing them especially as the weather gets warmer, but its a hella better than the alternative.

 

Texas Children's Hospital in Houston has started taking adult patients due to the rise in cases.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...cases-in-the-state-soar-to-record-levels/amp/

 

Governor Abbott is surely not going to talk about the protests in the same breath as the spike in the virus cases. That would be politically incorrect. He noted the increase in 20-30 year cases, made a plea for people to stay home if they don't need to go somewhere...and then something something about bars. lol

When I was younger and much more social, my friends would meet as a group for pre-party and post-party at a favorite bar/restaurant, for, say, a college football game. We didn't all just meet at the football stadium and then go straight home. I doubt groups of friends who attended the protests, as "the main event", did much different.

 

If everybody is prevented from spreading the disease, how are you going to get it?

 

Houston does appear to be getting hit hardest. It is Texas' largest city, and also George Floyd's home town, so they had the largest groups of protestors in the state.

The state can move in with pop-up hospitals if necessary. The set them up in April, but took them down when the virus didn't hit here early. So, we have some "practice" at adding temporary beds.

 

Right. You're point was that "most" of the protesters were wearing masks. That leaves many who were not.

 

Everyone expected the number of cases - total number, obviously, but new-cases-per-day as well - to go up once the quarantines were over.
The quarantine was never about diminishing the disease to the point where the new-cases-per-day would not go up upon release.

 

And they're are outside walking which also reduces the risk. You're really not thinking this through...

 

Doesn't matter, not only are they not standing 6 ft apart, they're not even a few milimeters apart! They might as well be maskless, which is what's resulting in the present situation right now.

 

Yes, I understand what they have "proven". You won't find me at a crowded protest, or in any other crowd where social distancing isn't enforced. I'm not part of the problem, personally.

 

The only thing I believe about a mask is that it is somewhat of a barrier and that it may have a positive effect, but it won't have a negative effect other than discomfort and more difficult breathing.

So I'm going with Mama. Mama said something is better than nothing.

But don't anybody try to get me to believe all the bullshet science says about masks. A mask is nothing but a medieval medical modality based on common sense. Something is better than nothing.

So I wear one.

 

Do you think the protesters infected Texas?