Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

Use the real numbers. Can't make it any simpler than that.

Here ya' go. All increases from May 1 to June 27.

Florida: 158% increase in deaths

Arizona: 378% increase in deaths

Texas: 183% increase in deaths

Edit: not sure how that squares with your comment a few posts ago that "Death rates everywhere, including Florida, Texas, Arizona, etc., have been declining steadily for weeks.".

 

So many folks talking to themselves again.
That Virus does some strange things to people.
All over the world.

Must have been part of the great Master Plan


burrrrrrrp

 

To understand the problem in AZ you have to take the numbers per capita.
The raw figures do not tell the story.
The real hot spot in the US is currently southern Arizona.
Completely out of control.

 

You could probably expand on that. I'm just using state numbers from World-O-Meters.

The raw numbers state-wide are bad enough. Looks like you're saying the problem is concentrated. Isn't most of the population concentrated, though

 

I did use the real numbers, scaled logarithmically, because that is the best way to accurately and precisely reflect day-to-day percentage changes over time. You refusal to acknowledge this is just ludicrous.

And what is that supposed to prove?

 

I'm done with you. That's what it proves.

 

The virus has already made it very clear it doesn't care about the weather. New Zealand eradicated it just as their winter was really kicking in. Australia is now in winter, and has lost two people to the disease in the past month of that cold weather. Japan has very cold winters, and had the same onslaught of cases as America did - in winter. Meantime, your warm southern states are telling you loud and clear that seasons mean nothing.

Your arguments appear to be more like wishful thinking, than anything else.

 

Take your ball and go home if you want. But the fact remains, your earlier claim about "rising" deaths is objectively false. The day-to-day percentage increase in deaths has been declining, not rising, as I already demonstrated.

 

Southern States are doing more testing, so there are more cases. Death rates remain increasingly flat however, despite the lies of the media.

Says the guy who thinks this virus behaves differently from every other virus in existence... lol

 

Which is of course, a good thing. The flipside of that positive, is that the disease spreads faster and further when it leaves its victims ostensibly 'healthy'.

 

Viruses naturally evolve to become more infectious but less lethal. But I'm sure this magical virus is somehow an exception to that as well.

 

1) I'm sorry ... but that is just the silliest thing to choose to believe. We increased testing in my country, and it showed that the numbers were plummeting. Testing will show the truth, whatever that truth is. Why you think it can only show increase, is pretty good evidence of the wishthinking referred to.

2) I'm not a guy, and you need to do your homework. The common cold virus is not technically seasonal (though it may appear to be so to the lay person), as it occurs in all seasons and climates. COVID is in the same family as the common cold.

 

That's well within the historical trend. No significant deviation can be observed, a fact that becomes obvious when you set the scale to logarithmic.

 

I recommend that you demure from making further comments on virology. If you happen to be a virologist, I recommend you seek a refund from your college.

 

There you go! You just proved @Woogs point.

 

Large parts of Arizona are Reservations, they do their own thing. The majority of population outside of the Res are in the south along the Mex border. There you have true metropolitan areas.
The Governors powers do not extend into the Res.
The Navajo for example still have the night curfew and have extended their week end curfew till end of the month, that is a complete lock down from Friday evening till Monday morning, no businesses are open.
While the rest of Arizona, none Res Arizona, had basically a uncontrolled opening.
So, consider the small population Arizona has, which is mostly in the very South and you see around 3000-4000 cases per day, than it is a no brainer to know were the real hot spot is.
1/3 of Arizona is Res, than you got at least 1/3 Federal or State lands and the rest is populated and under the controll of the State Government.

You have 3000-4000 cases in such a small population, per day, without looking it up, under 6 millions, total State ( I know it is less than CO, which has around 6 million ), the crap hit the fan, big time, simply out of control.
Per capita, leading the US, even making NY look good in its wildest C19 moments.

 

I don't choose to believe anything. The numbers speak for themselves. Death rates are not increasing despite the increase in cases.

Seasonal just means that it gets worse during certain times of the year. So, yes, it is definitely seasonal, as are virtually all viruses. This can be explained at least partly by the seasonal effect on our immune systems. It's actually basic biology. Not sure why you're trying to deny it.

 

He didn't have a point. And neither do you.

 

The entire state is being represented by Dade and Broward county. You happy?

 

The flu strains in all but WA and CA came from Europe. In WA, almost half came from Europe.

The meithod the federal level used with the closure of European travel was an absolute disaster..

And, the problem with travel has to include that we didn't do anything about travel between the states.

Somehow, we were fine with Mardi Gras, Spring Break and the other such behavior.

 

Deaths is not an acceptable measure.

Death is not the only long term damage that COVID does to a human body.

Also, when counts of hospitalized patients increases to the total hospital bed count, that is an absolute disaster for health care workers as well as patients desperately hoping for treatment.

You need to accept that case count has to be considered the serious measure that indicates how successful we are in reducing this pandemic.

 

When is the last time you remember flu cases being on the rise in June, heading into July?

In the south, more and more people are inside. The inside air circulation is sub-optimal in most places. This virus thrives when there's less resistance to the drops that carry the virus. The drops go further and can hit more people. Result? Hot states are seeing increases.

Up north, everyone has moved outside. This virus has a much harder time finding hosts when there is a lot of air circulation. Result? Cases not rising significantly.

 

I'd explain it to you, but you wouldn't understand that either.