Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

When was the last time we did more testing for flu in the summer than we did during the spring or winter?

Or maybe they're just doing more testing than they were before. Or maybe the virus has evolved to become more infectious but less lethal. Either way, the death rates remain flat despite the increase in cases, which is the most important fact to consider.

 

When it was needed.

 

The more likely explanation is that is that you have no argument.

 

Are we just supposed to pretend that increased testing has no effect on how many cases are being reported?

 

Fake News.

In fact, the CCP/DP Wuhan Virus came from Wuhan China.

"The concern was enough that the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, made a publicized stop this week in her home town’s Chinatown to implore people to “please come and visit and enjoy Chinatown”.

“We know that there is concern surrounding tourism, traveling all throughout the world, but we think it’s very safe to be in Chinatown and hope that others will come,” she said. “It’s lovely here.”"
THE GUARDIAN, 'Please visit Chinatown': coronavirus fears empty San Francisco district
Coronavirus outbreak, The historic neighborhood has seen business plummet as tourists stay away despite Nancy Pelosi insisting it is ‘very safe’, By Vivian Ho in San Francisco,
Thu 27 Feb 2020 07.54 EST Last modified on Wed 18 Mar 2020.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...an-francisco-coronavirus-fears-empty-district

 

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Are you even SLIGHTLY serious?

 

No. There are places where increased testing is showing decreasing cases, so the testing seems to be showing what's really happening.

 

The mortality rate keeps going down, and most of the deaths were the result of the denial of known effective treatments, and placing infected patients with uninfected high risk people. IOW, malpractice or worse.

"The median fatality rate of all cases, he writes, is 0.26%, significantly lower than some earlier estimates that suggested rates as high as over 3%.

In the paper, Ioannidis acknowledges that "while COVID-19 is a formidable threat," the apparently low fatality rate compared to earlier estimates "is a welcome piece of evidence."

"Decision-makers can use measures that will try to avert having the virus infect people and settings who are at high risk of severe outcomes," he writes. "These measures may be possible to be far more precise and tailored to specific high- risk individuals and settings than blind lockdown of the entire society."
JUST THE NEWS, Stanford prof: Median infection fatality rate of coronavirus for those under 70 is just 0.04%, The lower number is 'a welcome piece of evidence,' he says., By Daniel Payne, June 20, 2020.
https://justthenews.com/politics-po...tion-fatality-rate-coronavirus-those-under-70

 

Are you?

 

Not if you look at percent positive.

 

That donation bet is still available.

 

No, nor happy.
Todays mobility.
If you have 1 or 2 counties exploded in a state, todays mobility will project it very fast to the next county and so on.
Its the snowball avalanche.
If the State would lock down those counties, hard, the spread would be contained.
But that is not what is going to happen, or is happening.

 

More testing more positive tests until the virus has infected a high percentage of the population.
Everyone will eventually get the Wuhan Virus.

This lockdown and most of the deaths from the Wuhan Virus are the products of Fake Political Science.
When governments enforce policies to reduce immunity to disease they are encouraging more pandemics.

"There are guaranteed to be many novel microbes and diseases other than Covid-19 to which we need to develop an immunity as a species through continued social contact. When lockdowns are finally released, we may see a surge of new infections of various kinds due to this weakening of our immune systems. Recently we have seen that 66% of new Covid-19 cases in New York are of people who have been locked down for weeks, according to New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. This indicates that either the virus is much more widespread in New York than was previously thought, and/or that the weeks of lockdown have significantly weakened locked-down New Yorkers’ immune systems, making them much more vulnerable to the virus – and other illnesses."
LOCKDOWN SCEPTICS, The Left-Wing Case Against Lockdowns, By Mr Alexis FitzGerald, 14 May 2020.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-left-wing-case-against-lockdowns/

 

You claimed testing equates to more cases. Which is utterly and patently ridiculous.

 

Except when it isn't. The countries who've suppressed the virus increased their testing and got LESS positives. Obviously.

Honestly, why on earth do you guys keep falling back on this absurdity?

 

Well, it did fine in January.

And, it's doing fine in June.- like Trump repeatedy stated that it wouldn't.

I don't remeber biology as being a science where one hopes viruses behave like we want them to.

Are you really going to propose that we sit on our tail bones and see whether COVID likes October?

 

The US remains at about 7% positives. Up from about 5% during the shutdown.
Germany and Italy on the other hand seem to be back in good control below 1%.

I added California because @chris155au thinks we are ignoring them.

They are showing a small uptick in positives while testing is expanding. It's interesting to note that California is taking action in several counties even though the state looks pretty good. Especially when you compare it to the other problem states.



Georgia continues it's gradual upward trend.

 

Correlation absolutely does NOT indicate causation.

That's a well known fallacy.

 

Lets see, we are almost six month into this pandemic and Orlando still hasn't gotten hit from Miami. I still think this virus hits people living in condos and apartments in big cities, not communities like Orlando that is mostly suburban houses.

No matter how many masks you wear, that reclaimed poorly ventilated air and doors you touch in buildings are more of the cause than the rest of the state where people are not as subjected. But, lets freak out anyways and blame everyone in a state for one counties problems. Like blaming Albany, NY for New York cities problems. Two totally different situations.

 

Latest studies indicate that whatever "immunity" is derived from contracting the virus is virtually gone within 2 months.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/18/cor...-3-months-after-infection-study-suggests.html

What this means is that there can never be any "herd immunity" and yes, it is entirely possible to be reinfected just as people can come down with colds and the flu year after year.

 

Which leads to a question: Are we going to lock down every 2-3 months? No, that's absurd. We need the medical community to come up with some proven treatments to COVID-19 so we humans can get back to doing what humans do: Be human lol.

 

The 7 day moving average shows NO DECLINE in the last month!

FACTS matter!

Try using them instead of just posting endless conspiracy drivel!

 

NONE of the CONSPIRACY rant above belongs in this thread!

Take to the basement where it belongs.

 

This is untrue to the core. The media has not been conflating case rate with death rate. And even with the slowdown in deaths, we are still right on track to have at least 266,000 dead Americans at the end of this year because of COVID-19.

And I myself have been pointing very specifically to the drop-off deaths in the USA.

Unfortunately, a massive spike in new cases will inevitably lead to a rise again in deaths as well. It's simple math.

The virus has not changed in intensity or ferocity just because cases dropped off for a while (exactly, from 2020-05-010 to 2020-06-011)

Your uneducated and ignorant brabble is not being supported by facts.

'When you are losing, blame someone else', nöööö...

 

Yet another of your CONSPIRACY allegations that you have abjectly FAILED to substantiate with any CREDIBLE scientific data!

The FLU virus does NOT show any "natural evolution" towards becoming "more infectious but less lethal".



Once again all you have is just CONSPIRACY DRIVEL!