Obamacare: Trump asks Supreme Court to invalidate Affordable Care Act

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nope the ones who saw their health insurance got to pot and the cost rise dramatically.
     
  2. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I own the company.

    I have never seen such tax break. Can you please point it out.

    Secondly, a tax break is not subsidizing.

    In one case you have people that paid no tax getting tax dollars they didnt pay to cover a cost by other tax payers.

    In the other case you have people that did pay taxes having some of those returned.

    Surely you can see the difference.
     
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  3. kreo

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    I do no know.
    It is on the IRS site
    https://www.irs.gov/affordable-care...alth-care-tax-credit-and-the-shop-marketplace

    Many working people do not pay taxes, if their income is low.

    Access to health care is a part of civilized society. Apparently USA is not.
     
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  4. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do not have to.
    Government is blocking access to health care, that is very uncivilized and brutal and you seems to support that.
    That is a main reason Republican party is failing so often.
     
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    He has also claimed since he was a candidate that he would come up with a better cheaper plan with no pre existing exclusion with better coverage than the ACA. So far just another figment of his over vivid imagination.
     
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    No, McCains illogical and psychotic hate for Trump was the problem
     
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    Because it is based on lies and makes healthcare unaffordable
     
  9. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Healthcare is a national security issue. The country was running out of manpower for the military during WWII because people were in such poor physical health. Every President since then, except for two, have made a national healthcare plan part of the national agenda.
     
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    Thanks for the daily joke.
     
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    We have no health care plan in the good old USA,those who have plenty of money can afford to buy insurance those making $15 an hour and less are **** out of luck.
     
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    was Trump that had the illogical and psychotic hate for McCain, a war hero, even attacking McCain on his deathbed, Trump is a sick man
     
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    Of course it is a subsidy. If the feds all of a sudden said that employer contributions were no longer tax deductible what would happen?
     
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    Are you on Obamacare?
     
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    Its crazy to me that people can do the mental gymnastics necessary to equate paying less taxes as the same thing as getting tax dollars somebody never paid.

    Corporate welfare, subsidies, etc. are not nearly the same as getting money that wasn't yours to start with.

    Its all platitudes to attempt to vilify corporations and excuse true welfare.
     
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    If McCain was a hero why did his family get his military records sealed? McCain was seen as a hero because he was a POW he did nothing that was heroic
     
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    Your numbers are off and you haven't identified a better approach. (I'd prefer former a voucher plan favored by the late Senator Coburn.)
     
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    sad how the right attacks war heroes
     
  19. LangleyMan

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    There are also a lot of special interests making a lot of money off health care.
     
  20. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If people desire health insurance for their own sustainability, then why don't they take the steps necessary to improve employability to get a better paying job with benefits?
     
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    Apparently, the WH doesn't see a need to provide an alternative. This, from Kayleigh McEnany, who appeared on Fox News yesterday:

    "Look, the American public looks at this and what they say is this: If Democrats passed an unconstitutional law several years ago, then it's on Democrats to come forward with a solution."
     
  22. LangleyMan

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    We'll see if SCOTUS declares the ACA illegal. If they do, will this mean "Medicare for all" is the SCOTUS-safe alternative?
     
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    Trumper Republicans must have a death wish.
     
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    Indeed. Why would a WH, in power, suggest that it is their opposition's responsibility to propose a change? As if they will actually go with that change! This is a huge opportunity for Reps to come up with the alternative that - as Trump said - will offer more, protect pre-ex and cost less. Still waiting...
     
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    Untrue. Check with the clinics and hospitals all over the US that treat people every day and their patients never see a bill.
    We who can afford insurance or have the means to pay for ourselves absorb those costs.
     
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