White couple aims guns at St. Louis protesters

Where I think training is valuable. But don't get me wrong I'm not saying that it's not. Training takes away the need for deliberate moves if you trained properly it's just second nature.

But it's nothing without the right attitude.

 

Do you recall that news story about a school teacher calling the cops when a kid (Kindergartner) made a gun gesture with her fingers? I guess her attitude offended the teacher. <ridiculous how the laws overreach>

Edited to add link... https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/us/girl-down-syndrome-police-gun-trnd/index.html

 

yeah I remember that one and then I remember one where a kid bit a Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun. One recently where kids being taught at home on computers a teacher saw a BB gun in the background and called the police on the student because it was the equivalent of bringing a gun to school. That parent sued the school district.

I grew up in the 80s in a very low middle class neighborhood and I remember all the neighborhood kids getting together and playing cowboys and Indians we would find sticks and tree branches and use those for guns.

 

It would be funny if it wasn't real (crazy) life. ;-0

Yes. Remember those days of soft serve ice cream (before noise ordinances stopped ice creams trucks), no car seats, parents could send us outside without fear, etc. ALL the neighbors looked after all the kids. I even remember my mother sending me to the store with just a note to get her cigarettes. Let a mom try that today. LOL

 

Difference being is that they were on their property addressing people who broke through their gate to enter a gated community. They can attempt to charge, but no way in hell charges would stick, especially since there were no shots fired and ever person has a right to defend their castle.

 

I was a kid in the 80s but I grew up like that. Just a real mix of kids though the area of town I grew up in was newer so most of the people that lived there weren't there for generations. I remember ice cream trucks but they still have those on that area. Visited my folks the other day and saw one.

 

White couple aims guns at St. Louis protesters

Talk is cheap. Arrest them for assault with a deadly weapon.

 

So refresh the chain. What did the ambulance chaser say?

 

This is an AWESOME thread and shows EXACTLY how the corrupt left wing nazi media likes to RACE BAIT. I'd like to see this on page one for the whole summer at least. Don't let this thread die. Liberals on here are pacing back and fourth right now and praying that it gets of page one. DON'T LET IT HAPPEN!

 

Agreed 100%

 

If you haven't, go watch the video that kyklos posted ( post 128 ). It's hard to keep count of all the lies, misrepresentations, omissions, etc in that video. It completely misrepresents what actually happened and who was/is to blame.

 

The private street isn't their castle though, its the HOA's. They'd need a letter from the HOA charging them with defense of the street to exercise that particular claim.
The McClosky's admit in their statement that only "2 bad actors" out of the 500 people there made any threat toward them or their property. Which means Patricia can't just point the gun at every person she points that gun at. At most she can point the gun at 2 people, by her own statement.

 

it was close enough for government work, the white couple were well within their rights.

 

However, absent the similar permission form the HOA, the protestors were actually trespassers.

 

The gate they broke through is on their property.



Because we know how peaceful these "protesters" are.

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/statu...woman-with-2-x-4-husband-tries-to-defend-her/

 

According to CNN, the protesters broke through the gate into the private community, tresspassed on the private road and several of them were armed with guns.

 

you are allowed to protect yourself when a group of people break into your community with guns.

 

Which has nothing to do with Patricia pointing a gun at 498 of the 500 people who were there when, after consultation with counsel, she released a statement saying that there were only "2 bad actors" out of the 500 that made any threat at all to the McClosky's or their property. She could point at all 500 if she was able to exercise the defense of property castle law claim of the HOA. Barring that she needs a threat against herself, her husband, or their property to actually POINT the gun at someone and threaten deadly force. She admits she'd only have 2 people who met those predicates to point at, yet we see her point the gun at far more than 2 persons. She's exposed if the county prosecutor cares to make a case of it.

 

It was a wonderful life actually. Didn’t know anyone allergic to peanuts growing up. We disappeared most days during the summer. No one wore helmets. No one got hurt too bad either. Parents trusted everyone would get home when they needed to and we did. Parents didn’t care if their neighbors fed them lunch. Parents trusted that their neighbors were safe enough. Now you’re worried if the dad molests his kids. Now you’re lucky if 1/2 your neighbors are even married. In my neighborhood growing up only 1 kid had divorced parents. We all bounced around to each others pools. We all knew how to swim and no one ever drowned. We played street hockey and no one yelled at us when they drove by. We just yelled CAAAAR, and picked up the goals then put them back after the car went by. No big deal. It’s a different world now compared to the 80s.

 

Right - that has entirely to do with the trespassers and the potential threat they posed to them as they passed by their property.

Should they have pointed the guns at the trespassers as a group? No.
They were, however, completely inside their rights, and perfectly within reason, to stand outside their house with them.

 

They looked scared. Overwhelmed, out of their element.

Looked goofy? Yep, like 95% of us would on this forum if faced with the same circumstances.

Get real.

 

how do you know she wasn't just pointing her gun at the same bad apples as they passed by her house? what if she was also pointing her gun at people threatening to burn her down?

once you break into a private community and tresspass, you are in the wrong.

 

Fortunately, if faced with the same circumstances, my wife and I would not be alone.

 

when armed people break down a gate and march down a private road, people have a right to get scared and protect themselves.

dont like it? follow the ****ing law!!

 

The part of the quote you cut was there for a reason. When you cut it and don't respond to it, you seem disingenuous.

Here it is again: "Which has nothing to do with Patricia pointing a gun at 498 of the 500 people who were there when, after consultation with counsel, she released a statement saying that there were only "2 bad actors" out of the 500 that made any threat at all to the McClosky's or their property. She could point at all 500 if she was able to exercise the defense of property castle law claim of the HOA. Barring that she needs a threat against herself, her husband, or their property to actually POINT the gun at someone and threaten deadly force. She admits she'd only have 2 people who met those predicates to point at, yet we see her point the gun at far more than 2 persons. She's exposed if the county prosecutor cares to make a case of it."

The problem is the McClosky's have put out a statement claiming they were only afraid of 2 people not all 500 only "2 bad actors". Therefore pointing the gun at any but those 2 is Patricia pointing a gun at people she has admitted, WITH COUNSEL, she didn't fear and who hadn't made threats. She opened her mouth and foreclosed the possibility of claiming she was afraid of each and every person she pointed the gun at.

No one said anything about them not being in their rights to stand outside the home with the firearms. I said POINT THEM only at persons you have a reasonable fear of and don't have your lawyers say you were only in reasonable fear of 2 ****ing people when you pointed the gun at at least 20 people individually throughout the video.