Obamacare: Trump asks Supreme Court to invalidate Affordable Care Act

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Canada should have private hospitals providing care for the same money directed to public hospitals. Governments are using limits on public hospitals to contain health care spending.
     
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    no i am an american that’s picking up the cost for R&D in the medical field
     
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    yes they don’t get any profits.
     
  4. LangleyMan

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    Guess where the fattest Americans live?

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  5. LangleyMan

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    Because you're forced by government to pay more.

    One fix ... Let Americans import a drug if the cost here is more than the OECD average.
     
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    no i am not. the price is set by the market. it’s higher here because drug companies have to make up the cost they lose because foreign companies won’t pay
     
  7. LangleyMan

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    You don't understand how markets work.
     
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    sure i do. our govt isn’t setting prices
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im not sure, but I think they all ride their motorcycles to Sturgis once a year! The problem with life expectancy charts is that its not possible to measure until death. Those passing away today at 80+ years did not grow up eating processed foods and pharm products. Today a third of our population is diabetic or pre-diabetic. Life will be much shorter and more painful for most Americans all in the interest of profits for food and drug companies.
     
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    Why is that? Those countries have a single payer that are incentivised to seek lowest costs to maximize care for the dollar. You rely on the insurance companies to do the same but they don't. Has it never occurred to you to ask why? Wouldn't lower costs help their bottom lines? It should but they just up your premiums instead. People are loath to go through the process of searching for new insurance so that helps but what if the insurance companies own big pharma and the hospitals? In that event then they get to justify raising your premiums knowing that the profits from the drugs also head their way. How else can you explain record profits for insurance companies and big pharma and the hospitals? Shouldn't someone be taking a bath?
     
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    of course insurance companies look for lower cost from providers
     
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    Not very hard since Canada and France cut much better deals.
     
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    they are in a much different barginning position and are able to push cost on us
     
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    Forced labor is a type of slavery.
    The only reliable way to get health insurance is to work for the employer that provide health insurance.
    Otherwise person will be bankrupt in no time if he/she get sick and health insurance drops him/her as not profitable.
    Yes, sure after you lose all you money (enriching health care providers) you mercifully will be allowed access to government resources.

    It just a shame
    Slavery in 21-st century.
     
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    Yes, no one had questioned why it is so expensive?
    Where is root cause?
    Where exactly price is added?
    Never ever, I have heard from any American that question.
     
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    Gee, I wonder why 'Catastrophic' policies were suddenly unavailable to the general public? The PPACA made them 'illegal' because they didn't provide all the bells and whistles the government felt everybody should have, after all, the government knows what's best for you, eh?

    Now that they are 'legal' again, they've put age restrictions on them - regardless that a person has the high deductible funded, and are a generally healthy person, we just can't have people making decisions based on what they want and need, now can we.

    Do you know that you can get many health care services for reduced prices when you pay cash for what you need? Did you know that most pharmaceutical companies have programs to reduce the out of pocket expense of purchasing their product? Did you know there are several conditions and minor diseases that can be addressed without pharmaceuticals?

    If you want to consider working to pay for things you need and want (there is a difference) as slavery, you are in for a long, miserable life.
     
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    The Republicans did not control the Senate when the ACA passed. Get your facts straight. Not a single Republican voted for it.
     
  18. StillBlue

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    You're saying that a bureaucratic pencil pusher out negotiates our insurance guys? No wonder Melania had such a look if rapture on her face when kissed by Trudeau, they have manly men in the great white north.
     
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    i’m saying a nation has more influence then one insurance company
     
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    In your mind. If that was so why are his records sealed. Show what he did besides crash and get caught by the enemy. That does not make a hero
     
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    Wrong he saved Obama's DACA last week. Trump has helped the court system by getting 200 judges approved
     
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    They came from Canada since Canada was ruled by the British
     
  23. LangleyMan

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    Sailed right over your head, did it?
     
  24. LangleyMan

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    More of them live in the South.
    Sad but true. I'm shocked at how many obese people there are. YouTube with crowd scenes from the early 20th Century is a huge contrast with today.

     
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  25. LangleyMan

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    Really?
     

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