Not wearing a mask can cost you $50 in South Beach under new COVID crackdown

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  1. HB Surfer

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    WRONG. Murder rates and crime rates are through the roof in all the Democratic run major cities. They are up 70%+ in some places. You're just spewing more Leftist propaganda. I just shared some real facts.
     
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    “Better looking sex”:p

    newsflash it is not your faces we are interested in looking at.......

    It’s your personality - which explains Margot RoAbbie :p
     
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    Then what is Trump doing about it?
     
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    Are you kidding?
     
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    Really? Got proof?
     
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    Not a good example. South Beach is topless.
     
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    Recycling Jay Leno jokes I see.
     
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    :applause:

    Great analogy!
     
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    I don't think you'd survive very well in many of these blue areas.

    The idea that you have inherent rights to freedom unless proved otherwise is foreign to them.
     
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    Lmao how many murders do you think we have a year??
     
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    You are talking out of your neck and insulting people that you don't know.

    I thrived in Del Paso Heights (Sacramento) and was often the only white dude on the basketball courts. The boxing gyms there were excellent in those days with People like Tony Lopez and Jim Cantu training guys of all races (mostly black and Latino). I came up with a Wrestling background prior and got 3rd in State. My son won 2nd in the Kids Worlds (BJJ) @ 12 years old and won it at 14, he then went undefeated in the Sunset League his first year as a Wrestler. He was fortunate to train under one of the absolute best in the world Marcus Almeida "Buchecha". I live in a place that is heavily populated with world class MMA Fighters. Some are my friends and you would know them.

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    ^^^ That is World Champion (Heavyweight and Open Class) Marcus Almeida with my son (blonde) and his best friend right after he took down the gi portion of the California Championships. He also won the No Gi competition. He continued with BJJ until he received his Green Belt, which is the highest a kid can get and is very rare, unlike kids receiving Black Belts in TKD. I share this, because some of us take self defense very seriously. My dad was Special Forces and had me shooting pistols and rifles competently by the time I was 7. My son had the same training from me and his grandpa. I don't need someone on a forum giving me crap about handling myself in a bad area, been there done that.
     
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    No, he is not a Dummycrat . He knows he needs the drivers license to legally purchase an AR-15 rifle to defend his property from leftist looney tune anarchists
     
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    you can't dispute what I said, so you divert to what, accusing me of not answering a question?

    I posted the facts, you can choose to believe them or not
     
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    ROFL! If it was a "fact" that Trump forced the Governors to place the contagious in Nursing Homes, then why did 45 Governors NOT do it? Why are they not doing it now?
     
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    now your the one posting fake propaganda, what you mean is why did Trump remove the requirement that nursing homes hire employees to handle this in 2019, one year before they were needed for this pandemic

    a state with high rates could not keep every elderly person that tested positive in a hospital - not that many rooms - you know that, I know that, the best they could do is isolate them in the nursing homes, which they would have done had Trump not removed the regulations

    Trump's coronavirus guidelines said to send them back home if they were not in need of a ventilator or other emergency care... the nursing home is their home

    we will see how Texas and Florida handle it as beds fill up, will they admit all their elderly for long hospital stays that are contagious with no symptoms... we will see - the reality is, no state has that many hospital beds

    the best way to handle it is to isolate these people off in a separate area of the nursing home - just like they would do with the flu (had Trump not reduced regulations, the nursing homes would of been staffed to handle this crisis)
     
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    You still can't answer the question an keep running from it. Why did the 5 Democratic Party Governors force contagious patients into Nursing Homes when the other 45 Governors DID NOT? Go ahead... share the answer.
     
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    I did answer, you just dd not like the answer - what advice is Trump giving?

    Trump's old advice was to send them home, what does he recomend now?

    and now we will see how Texas and Florida handle it as beds fill up, will they admit all their elderly for long hospital stays that are contagious with no symptoms or very mild symptoms... we will see - the reality is, no state has that many hospital beds

    is Trump gonna lead or play golf and tweet all day?
     
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    I don't know if I approve of issuing fines against people who do not wear masks, but I will say that right now mandated masks seem more justifiable than mandated seat belts. When you don't wear a seat belt you are putting yourself at risk and no one else, but when you do not wear a mask there is reason to believe that you are putting others at risk.

    Whatever the government mandates or doesn't mandate, people should currently be wearing masks when they go out in public. When you wear a mask you're not only protecting yourself from COVID, but you are reducing the chances of you spreading it to other people
     
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    that not even the real problem. there are a whole lot of sections of regulations dealing with moving residents who live in Rm 102 B, to Rm 367 A regarding getting permission from the resident and family and giving a 30 day notice, etc and because some rooms are designated as 'Medicare' rooms with a different pay scale, different expectations you can't move a Medicare patient into a non medicare assigned room or vice versa. Normally all we do if a specific resident is super contagious, is turn that resident's preexisting room into a quarantine room and maybe move his one roomate, but you can't do that with 10 or 15 residents dispersed throughout the building. You need to take a section or wing of your building and turn it into a quarranteen Covid wing ( with outer egress and away from kitchen, maintenance shop, beauticians, and activities rooms, and put all the residents who are covid together, which means CPS has to waive all those rules during the pandemic to allow for us to move residents quickly when the test results show up, and where it is logical, rather than where they 'live'.

    Remember these buildings are often very old, with small thin hallways and staircases, porous surfaces, and multi room wide ventilation systems etc. They really were not designed to become giant Quarantine spaces.
     
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    Please excuse the wordiness of these posts but its detailed, important stuff.

    The 'Trump guideline' is actually consistent with pre-existing regulation (I think a possible waiver of those regulations was what was actually being asked for) These rules on hospital/ nursing home admittance were written to prevent hospitals or nursing homes from holding on to Medicare or Medicaid patients for weeks or months past their medical need, just to keep their census numbers up and hold on to the govt checks, an underhanded but common form of fraud. Basically, these facilities are supposed to discharge the patient as soon as they are medically stable to a placement that best meets their lowest medical and psycho-social needs. If they no longer need hospital care ( the most expensive) , they need to discharge them home or to a nursing home or memory care etc. These rules are patient centered and do not consider whether they are putting other patients in medical danger except if you document violence etc. Hospitals are obliged to discharge them 'home' rather than 'hoard' them for their therapy co-pays etc. Nursing homes are likewise obliged to take them, unless they can show they no longer can meet their medical/ pscho-social needs ( stress Their medical needs) that is the default set of rules from CPs that these Governors and administrators and doctors in these states were stuck with, until they could get some flexibility from CPS.

    What has been going on is that CPS has been trying to respond to this crisis by loosening and clarifying some regs, and tightening others but its slow going. Each week we are getting new guidelines from CPS on how to handle this pandemic in our buildings, when we are allowed to let residents out and which ones, what to do with residents that are non-compliant and how to structure a 'covid quarantine' but none of that was in place when the Eastern states got hit. Its been hit and miss and a lot of trial and error. Things have evolved since New York City. The same will be true with regs dealing with discharges and admits.
     
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    So we've criminalized breathing, and defined breath as a lethal weapon.
     
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    You could wear a skirt. Just sayin'.

    :mrgreen:
     
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    He's also getting slammed by the courts. Couldn't block Bolton's book, couldn't block his niece's book ... poor widdle Donnie!
     
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    He's still an evil man. The mask doesn't change that.
     
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    "Oh, woe is me!"

    Yes, your breath could very well be a "lethal weapon" and you may not even know it, so man up, grow a pair, quit your whining, and wear a freaking mask when you go out.
     
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