4.7 million jobs added in June. A new record

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  1. Polydectes

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    I never left work.

    You don't see how these people will say yeah have to shut down all the businesses and then say all the jobs are gone and it's all Trump's fault? You don't see the hypocrisy? That's what I was pointing out.
     
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    Worldofmeters.info/coronavirus
    And yesterday, it was Arizona that led. California did hold the top spot the two previous days. Then it was New York. And the day before that it was Arizona again.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20200702161952/https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
     
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    The neat part about living in a small state is that you are basing your analysis on a total of 56 out of the 130,000 in America alone. If you did a poll using that size of a sample compared against that population, you would get a margin of error of around 13.

    Here's the data on the average of 13 years.

    https://www.sciencetimes.com/articl...ients-losing-13-years-lives-average-study.htm
     
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    We are doing statistical sampling because we do not test every individual. And my example is still very much an explanation of the difference between aggregate positives and percentage positives and, furthermore, why an increase in the later means that increased sampling does not provide a sufficient answer to the reason for why the case numbers are currently increasing.
     
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    Possible with the correct methods and enforcement.

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    I actually did not assume that they wouldn't be working because they can very much work from home.

    I did assume that "taking precautions" meant things like not going into bars or restaurants and avoiding crowds - all of which are a normal part of the functioning economy.
     
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    I said that he should start with those things - not that they would stomp out the virus. Trump taking those types of steps would encourage the segment of the population currently resisting pandemic control measures, like those protesting in large crowds by the way, to alter their behavior.
     
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    What Trump has done?

    Our Covid19 recovery plan was blueprinted by Congress, and the next stimulus package will include “Back to work” incentives, thus, most likely, another forthcoming employment record financed by the borrowing powers of Congress.

    And once again, did the PPP loan forgiveness rules, recently relaxed/extended to Dec, spurred the recovery?
     
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    Wonder why which particular state is leading is relevant to them? Oh because if it's a Democrat lead state they can ignore all people suffering and say it's a Democrat thing........

    And someone said you were playing political games smh
     
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    "Back to work” incentives, thus, most likely, another forthcoming employment record financed by the borrowing powers of Congress."

    If Congress chooses to put in Corporation liability protection for employees getting Corona on the job they are giving employees rights away. So naturally we should get something in return for losing our ability to sue right? And what better way to kill two birds with one stone than to compensate us for giving up our right to sue and incentivize people on unemployment to return to work than hazard pay.
     
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    Hence why I said...
    But I did look at their single day case count and it ranks in the top 10 of any State, all time. Only 64 countries have added more cases, in total, than Florida added in a single day.
     
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    Ya. We've had a bad run lately. Si far the death toll has been low, certainly compared to the bad run in the NE. Time will tell if ICU numbers jump and death count follows.

    Locally our icu is 70% but only 19% covid. We have plenty of old peeps so icu is usually high on a normal month.

    Florida maybe would have been better shutting down in june vs april. But unless you shut down borders it doesn't matter.
     
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    Well said!!!


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    Deny, lie, guttersnipe from the sidelines, and brag about himself.
    Anything but lead the country by word and deed.
     
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    I'm not following your argument..... Are you saying you'd rather shut down the economy for months, rather than reopen the economy and go back to work and take the chance you'll miss 14 days of work because of quarantine? And that's assuming the big "if", which is "if" you catch it and have to quarantine in the first place.

    If that's what you're saying it makes absolutely no sense. Zero.
     
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    Arizona cases say otherwise.....

    Is the economy going to work at full capacity with all I laid out?

    No, I'm for reopening but to think that alone is going to be enough to make up for all the debt, missed rent payments, weeks without peoples paychecks is asinine given all the above. Because anyway you slice it the tax payers are going to foot the bill either by giving directly to citizens or through likely costlier intermediaries
     
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    Hopefully and as it should be, always the TRUTH. The Neocon. is all about the manipulation and Helping the CENTRAL BANKSTERS continue their Ponzi scheme. This is all WAY OVER Trumps head. He only sees today. Just like he always he deflects when caught in yet another lie, or corrupt situation.
    Of course by NOW most Americans get it. Then you have 25% that think it is UNAMERICAN to anti Trump. Because Trump represents that RICH WHITE GUY they all inspire to be. Most of that is pushed thru the RW think tanks to manipulate the gullible uneducated white American Guy that lives his life thru facebook. He does this LIFESTYLE because he can no longer afford to camp, fish, hunt, bowl, etc. He is dumb enough to follow Trump and Blame China, the Migrant, etc. It was the GLOBALISTS as he calls them, that did this... He is constantly referring to them as GLOBALISTS because he cant call them Jewish. Ironic that he like to blame them for moving their businesses off shore to save money on Labor, then he gives one of their founding fathers a Medal. Art Laffer is one of the Jewish right wingers whom destroyed the working class.

    Trump has no clue what he really did, nor what contribution Rush Limbaugh has made in blasting lies over the airwaves for 20 years. He just knows they help him push the LIE of a great economy. Any dope can go look at the real charts of borrowed money, deficits, credit, and printing. We know for a fact this destroys dollar value, yet Trump calls it a GREAT economy. Just like his JOBS JOBS JOBS is garbage PR. a 10$/hr. job for 50M means nothing.

    Just too bad so many Americans are so so gullible.
     
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    Trump stats are a game of 3 card molly... Look over here, not over here... They are "HOT SPOTS and we are HANDLING them" LMAO... What an absolute criminal and Heartless fool. He could actually care less if Every person in every Nursing home died. His response to this would be : They should have made more money to be in the Very best Nursing Home and this wouldnt happen.
    He is dust now.... Of course if he can force the supreme court to stop all mail in ballots, then have Barr set up FBI agents at every polling station shooting anyone that is not Pro Trump, he may win.
     
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    No, I don't think reopening alone will fix all of the economic issues overnight ---- but I think it will help slow the hemorrhaging.
     
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    Why are you questioning that now? You couldn't care less a few months ago.
     
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    fantastic! amazing seeing the trump policies quickly fire back against the chinese virus economy
     
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    Ok because I get the feeling from some that these numbers while improving are a reasoning for not doing anything futher. My apologies
     
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    Covid-19 says thank you.
     
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    cool...the chinese virus is welcome. americans won’t let the chinese virus win
     

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