Who would you vote for? (see OP first)

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Who would you vote for per the OP?

  1. Donald Trump - Republican

    26 vote(s)
    63.4%
  2. Joe Biden - Democrat

    10 vote(s)
    24.4%
  3. Jo Jorgensen - Libertarian

    5 vote(s)
    12.2%
  4. Howie Hawkins - Green

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Other/Still would not vote (explain)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Maquiscat

    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

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    You didn't address why you wouldn't vote for the other two, especially in a situation where your vote would be the deciding one.
     
  2. Maquiscat

    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

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    When one refers to the popular vote, it is the straight numbers of the people as opposed to the way the EC votes fall.
     
  3. Pollycy

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    The "other two" are politically insignificant... virtually invisible. How could either of them 'pull the country together' and lead as president when scarcely anyone even knows who they are... or cares...?
     
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    I won't hold it against Benen that he's comfortably situated right in the heart of the MSNBC, hyperliberal, America-hating Left, flanked by such 'notables' as Rachel Maddow.... :fart:

    Instead, I'll simply observe that Republicans -- since Ronald Reagan -- have focused on promoting stock market 'casinos' über alles! Their golden opportunity came with the fall of the Soviet Union, when it suddenly became 'safe' to off-shore more and more operations, and jobs, to foreign countries where they could get special concessions from corrupt local governments through the usual assortment of bribes and other 'incentives'....

    Republicans have fully supported the U. S. Tax Code, which has given blatantly unfair abilities for the ultra-wealthy to avoid taxes through loopholes, shelters, exemptions, exclusions, 'carried interest', etc. Along comes Trump, who makes a big show of his new tax program, but functionally it hasn't done the Middle Class much good, if any.

    Now, if it seems like I'm 'piling on' Republicans, I'll add that DEMOCRATS have happily been content to allow the same unfair U. S. Tax Code to prevail during all of their regimes, too! So... what do we have? A Republican Party that worships at the shrine of a grotesquely overvalued assortment of stock markets -- virtual 'fraud balloons'. And, a Democrat Party that leverages government handout welfare programs, subsidies, and 'White guilt' to gain and control power!

    When you mash all the bullshit out of it, then, neither of these political parties is worth a damn, and both are poison to this country....

    [​IMG]. "Hey, we'll drink to that!"
     
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    that is too pessimistic, the republicans have always been the lesser evil party for the working classes.

    democrats are the party for the academics, hollywood, and upper classes.
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    There is no straight national popular vote on anything, never has been. Presidents are chosen by the States not the People.
     
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    I totally disgusted with both major parties, with this modern era of polarization and ultra high partisanship. Where it's always the good of the party over the good of the nation. That alone eliminates the two major party candidates. I'd go with the Libertarian candidate. Just to piss on both major parties due to their unwillingness, their refusal to work together for the betterment of the country.
     
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    I can't take part in this poll: You forgot Vladmir Putin on the multiple-choice alternatives.
     
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  9. Maquiscat

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    And yet that number still occurs and is reported every year. We see a difference between it and the EC every so often, such as in the 2016 election where Shillery won the popular vote but Trump took the EC.

    As noted before, the point of having that in the hypothetical is so that no one could decry one as being more important than the other. Both ended up equal in the hypothetical.
     
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    Has he registered to run?
     
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    Yes and it is folly to pretend in represents what a true national popular vote would be. Tallying up the 51 separate and unique elections and declaring one single vote is statistical/political nonsense. Campaigning and voting patterns would be completely different. There is no national popular vote to "take".
     
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    I voted Biden because whoever follows Donald Trump will be tasked with repairing our system in hopes of a return to what our Constitution stands for, this will require many connections in Congress and elsewhere just to build a competent cabinet. The international damage alone will take years of stability to repair if it can even be done and China/Russia/NK will need to be dealt with.
     
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    Most hypothetical are statistical/political nonsense. They aren't intended to necessarily reflect reality. Look at the one where you are given a choice to throw a switch and it results in one death or not throw it and it results in many deaths. What are the statistical odds of that situation ever happening? Do you whine about the reality of that situation as well? You're the kind of person I asked to just move along because you can't seem to handle what a hypothetical is.
     
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    China, Russia and North Korea are inevitable anyway. They aren't reliant on who is president. It's the rare person who would be able to salvage them, especially NK.
     
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    Trump 2020
    Jorgenson 2024
     
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    That is true but I still go with Biden, he is at least adult and well connected.
     
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    If this little poll is any indication, Trump is going to crush it.
     
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    Ironically enough, on the other debate site I did this exact same poll on, Biden has the heavy lead.
     
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    The only one I would possibly vote for is Trump.
     
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    Its crazy to me that 69% of people here would still vote for Trump after this disasterous handling of the coronavirus and the health and economic consequences that have followed.
     
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    That's just among the people who bothered to answer the poll. Given the total votes, we don't have a large enough sample size to be representative of the forum, yet alone the country. It would be foolish to think that there are not still plenty of people who haven't the wit to understand his foolishness. He wants to set off fireworks from Rushmore during a drought after all. But even after the forest burns and the landmark damaged, there will still be people who will follow him.
     
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    Truly horrifying. Mental incompetent political whore Joe Biden is the best the Democratic party could do. Our country deserves better than this. What was it called again? #walkaway ?
    Biden's already had to apologize to Trump for dizzing him on this issue. The Pol Pot left would have done a worse job than Trump. And who knows how much of our population would simply be murdered corpses rotting in an American killing field someplace? This November, vote Republican, across the board. Save your own life and liberty.
     
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    My first thought was that I would choose Howie. With a name like that and being in the green party, a progressive arm of the far left-wing side of the equation, but after looking him up I realized that he is a socialist. Sorry Howie, but that's a bridge too far for me, right now. So, I voted for Biden.
     
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    Part of the nice thing about not living in a swing state (really the only good thing) is that, since my vote doesn't matter, I can simply vote my conscience. No need to be practical and vote for the lesser of two evils.
     
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    Other than wishful thinking, the cards don't seem to say he will be crushing anything but his leather chair.

    Republican internal polling signals a Democratic rout

    ~snip~

    When Democrats put out 70% or more of the internal House polls, there is a big swing in their direction in terms of the popular vote. Since 2004, Republicans have never published 70% or more of the internal House polls. The only time there was anything close to this on the their (2010), they picked up more House seats than in any election in the last 70 years.

    When Democrats put out around 60% of the internal House polls, the national environment is usually fairly unchanged from the prior election.

    Anything less and Republicans are likely going to do well, such as the aforementioned 2010 election when Democrats share of the internal House polls released publicly was a mere 35%.

    Democrats would definitely take a political environment that is mostly the same as it was in 2018. The numbers out recently suggest it could be even better for them. They point to a national political environment in which they're favored by double digits.

    For Republicans, something needs to change or they're going to get blown out come November.

     

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