Fauci: new cases could reach 100,000 per day

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  1. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ Yes exactly. He actually never was. There is corruption on both sides and the President is now aware how few he can depend on .
    Hopefully the people who support America , the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights will be the ones who are successful in keeping "America First" .
     
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    The mask evidence is problematical.

    There are ample statements from experts on both sides of the controversy.

    In fact, it is an obstruction of the airway. If you have one of those pulse oximeters, you can observe your own reduced oxygen levels when wearing a mask.

    Less oxygen means more carbon dioxide retained in the lungs, and moisture too I think.

    I have a friend (who had been infected in early March) whose doctor told him that the mask he had been wearing for 8 hour shifts was a likely cause of his current status URI.

    I remember wearing a mask when I used to do some word work in a shop with lots of sawdust. It was not pleasant, but considered necessary to protect you from sawdust.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Constitutional governance has not existed in this country for many years. Our Congress demonstrated their 'domestic enemy' status when they passed the patriot act and other such legislative garbage.
     
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    Doctors and nurses working in Covid wards have to wear a mask and full face screen all day with the only break at lunch time. During their working sessions (4-5 hours per session) they cannot go to the washrooms or have anything to drink. This also means they have to limit their liquid intake before they even start their shift so that they won't have to use a washroom. Yet people complain that they are asked to wear a mask for an hour outside
     
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    Well I can tell you that mask wearing is hot and uncomfortable. But the science has shown it to be effective at reducing the risk of transmission. So I wear one.

    How many family members or friends dead is an acceptable number, do you think? If a mask is known to protect them, not wearing them could put them at risk if you are infected, unwittingly. So, how many infected/dead people is an acceptable number to maintain one's stance that they don't have to or don't want to wear a mask?
     
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    The wearing of a mask is the new religion.

    I'm an atheist. :nod:
     
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    Yeah, to reach 100,000 cases we would have to double our cases. That is only plausible with exponential growth. I can't think of anything we are experiencing involving exponential growth. I'm thinking really hard here. Still can't think of anything infecting us that grows exponentially. And by the way, the number of daily cases have almost tripled in the last couple weeks from 20,000 to 57,000 cases. We also have July 4 coming up.
     
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    The trouble for me is that I know dozens who were infected, yet I still don't know 1 who died. So I have to deal with reality in my life.

    Statistically, when it gets to 100 I will know one who died from it.
     
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    Yep by the time we've spent X trillion dollars on testing, we will discover that practically the entire herd has been infected, and herd immunity has taken over. :applause:
     
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    The information that is trickling in on the long term damage and effects of the disease is enough for me. It isn't just living or dying - it is the quality and subsequent length of life that can be compromised.
     
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    I say it's all about quality of life. Living in a nursing home is not a pleasant existence, it's depressing IMO.

    This covid is being way overblown on the media, constant fear factor.
     
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    Scientists estimate that about 20 million have been infected, give or take. So it will take years of this to reach herd immunity. Another problem is that covid is in the same family of viruses as the common cold which mutates and we have never achieved herd immunity. And we already know that a European strain of covid developed after the Asian one. Another problem is that according the several studies the number of covid antibodies declines dramatically after a few months which is a huge problem for herd immunity. In fact these problem presents challenges for developing an effective vaccine as well.
     
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    ~ People are not complaining about wearing a mask in general. We are concerned the government are not being honest and forthcoming. We are worried wearing masks too often creates more problems than it solves. The "experts" have been wishy-washy about proper mask hygiene - especially for those expected to wear one all day ! Masks have a purpose. Wearing one outdoors is a very bad idea.
    Health workers in close contact with many patients daily are in an entirely different situation. They wash their hands , change mask & gloves often for good reason. They must maintain sterile protocol when necessary. Those standards do not apply to every day living.
     
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    ~ They are often referred to as "living graveyards" by those involved. :blankstare:
     
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    Let me put it this way: We were at 20-30 K, and we were there for a long time right? It's only been the last week, week and a half we've been at 40-50 K. It won't double that quickly. We'll see 100 K(worst case scenario) in a couple of months from now.

    Trends, when they are established do not break easily. And when trends aren't established, we don't pull a rabbit out of our hat.
     
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    Again, viruses grow exponentially. This is because if 60,000 people are newly infected, they will go around infecting a lot more people than if just 20,000 were newly infected. Even if the growth is linear not exponential, we went from 20,000 to 60,000 in a couple weeks, which is a 40,000 increase. In another 2-3 weeks we should reach 100,000. Viruses are unpredictable so we can't be sure of anything but with the 4th coming up, I'm expecting 100,000 by the end of the month.
     
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    Well if this virus does the damage they're starting to see in the brain, lungs, heart, liver, kidney and pancreas, it won't be much of a quality of life for some of the people who contract but survive it.

    For the record, I am not living in fear. I'm living cautiously and safely. I see a huge difference there. Mask wearing is not an expression of fear - but rather, compassion and caring for others.
     
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    ~ Some of us are expecting herd immunity .✔
     
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    At the rate covid is spreading through the population, it will take years before herd immunity is reached, but that rate of spread is still high enough to overwhelm hospitals and kill a lot of people. Additionally, we are getting mounting evidence that the coronavirus has been mutating, much like its relative, the common cold. We also have mounting evidence that natural covid immunity only lasts a few months.
     
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    I still think this is a biochemical weapon unleashed by the Chinese government.
     
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    ~ That we agree on. I believe many are also coming to this conclusion. Too much suspicious activity from China to ignore.
     
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    Personally, I think it was released by Trump himself. What a twist!
     
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    Some of us are expecting unicorns too.

    Neither will be very happy
     
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    ~ CNN is already on that story ✔
    ~ Stay away from those people .
     
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    I guess Fox can do the China engineered virus story, and CNN can do the Trump engineered one. I have another personal theory. FACT: Japan has done extremely well against the virus and has very few cases and their economy is doing fine. Its almost as if they knew what was happening. FACT: The Japanese have a terrible relationship with China and feels threatened by China's growing power. So there is a good chance that Japan PLANTED then virus in China in order to cause mayhem.
     

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