First guns, now masks- WA Sheriffs continue to make me proud.

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  1. s002wjh

    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    i went to many shops lately, 99% wear mask, and keep social distancing. you chain mail got a gap of what 1/4inch, go read up meaning of "microscopic"
     
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    Interesting. Does that mean you are also opposed to seeking medical treatment for you or a family member if you get infected and or pass on the virus?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Oh so there are exceptions for you? Some things shouldn't be gotten used to? That humans naturally take a certain amount of risk? Some more than others? Gotta admit, living in a bubble would certainly prevent this virus from transferring. Much more effectively than a mask even.
     
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    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    if you think wear a mask is living in a bubble, might as well, dont wash hand or shower, heck go naked. would you let doc not wear mask or glove during your surgery?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    There's only one business in my town which requires a mask. All others don't. About 1% wear masks. And there are no covid cases reported in my town.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I support it being legal to go naked anywhere that children are not allowed, not that thats at all similar to mask laws...

    If they wanted to prevent drunk driving, they would have far harsher penalties like liscence revocation and prison time. They fine it instead because money > lives. Not that thats at all similar to mask laws either...

    Human feces is environmentally toxic, so also not similar to mask laws...

    Got more to try?
     
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    I never said that wearing a mask is living in a bubble. That was your words. But you are arguing that wearing a mask is for peoples protection. A bubble would accomplish the same thing, only 100% better. Why aren't you arguing for that?
     
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    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    you must live extreme remote town, but its not same at every hwere.
    l thats what the governor in FL/TX/AZ said a month ago, until there is, then its too late. ever heard of preventive measure.
     
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    ok but there is reason those law exist, right? you can't just do anything you like in a city. you can do anything you like if you live in nowhere. The pandemic change those rule, no one want to wear mask in the summer, you think i want to do that? i do it because science shows it help, and i dont want to get it or pass to other ppl, especially my parents. anyone who goto public place not wearing it, just been selfish, its always, why should i do it rather than if this help ill do it.
     
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    Nearest other town equal to or bigger is 30 miles away. Smaller towns in-between and around. A bubble would make a great preventive measure wouldn't you say? Far more effective than any mask.
     
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    like i said if you goto public place wear a mask. otherwise, next time you have a surgery dont ask the doc to wash his hand or wear mask or wear glove, cause in your mind its a bubble.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know what it means. In this context, it means 'smaller than the loose weave of a bandana or T-shirt'.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. Im also not opposed to people who refuse to wear a condom and get an STD seeking medical treatment.

    Should condoms be mandatory?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cite the science that shows that wearing a bandana over your face reduces viral transmission.

    Not an N95 or surgical mask, but a bandana.
     
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    No need to wear a mask when no cases are near my county and I'm practically a hermit. But if you're that worried about it I'd suggest a bubble.
     
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    That is not even SLIGHTLY what it means to be a sheriff.

    Where did you get THAT bit of nonsese?

    Sheriffs do not get to make decisions on the validity of laws. They are there for enforcement and investigation.

    And, these sheriffs went way further than what you propose - they used their office to oppose the legislature in acts of public defiance.

    And, yes - there are whole bodies of comedy based on the obscure laws that haven't been removed from the books, due to it being a waste of legislative resources.
     
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    Hate to break it to you but every LEO in the Country has discretionary authority in who they arrest or don't. That's a fact. Don't believe me? Look it up. Or I'll post a link later when I'm not on my phone.

    So yes, sheriff's have the authority to ignore laws instituted by State Legislatures, Federal Legislatures, and Governors.

    It's funny that discretionary authority was touted by Obama supporters as him being able to ignore law when it came to illegals, but now....discretionary authority doesn't actually mean that now.
     
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    Not the same thing at all and that should be obvious. The person you sleep with is (presumably) a willing partner in the enterprise. No-one is going to walk up to you and say 'hey Dude, kiss me and give me Corona why don't you'. In other words they are not asking to get sick and/or infect people they care about. But why should you give a flying f@#k about others in your community when it seems to be all about you?
     
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    It's unenforceable. And if you try anyway, be prepared for abuse. Be prepared to hear "I notice you didn't have your mask on" from officers. I'd rather not give them the power to fine me for taking a drink of coke. And please don't say they wouldn't do that to someone who briefly removed their mask. They occasionally would.
     
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    Do you mean to say that cops are allowed to have a conscience? Are they also allowed to listen to their conscience?

    I guess that counts Frank Serpico when he exposed the corruption in NYPD, eh?
     
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    Yes, there are a good number of Americans would refuse to work together toward a common goal regardless of that goal.

    Economy? Health of friends and neighbors? Competitiveness in the world markes or other US leadership? The lives and safety of healthcare workers who risk their lives to treat those you infect?

    NONE of that is nearly as important as defying ANY call for working together.

    And, I do not believe it has ANYGHING to do with your faux concerns about enforceability or whatever.

    You should go back to fighting to repeal speed limit and seat belt laws.

    Drawing your line at MASKS just makes you look weak and somewhat deranged.
     
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    I already addressed it above. If you are a cop who cannot in conscience do your job and enforce the laws, you can report your reasons why you can't to hirer authorities. Announce it to the world why you can't, march up to the legislature and provide witness testimony, or protest, and write a best seller etc but you have to quit so that someone else can enforce those statutes. Frank Serpico was actually trying to enforce statutes written into law by the legislature on graft, theft, assault, fraud, assorted drug charges etc, which was what he was being paid to do. .
     
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    I don't draw the line at masks. Most times one should wear them .I draw the line at mask Nazis who want you to wear a mask when it's not feasible or even dangerous to one's health, or they want state authorities involved.

    Your post says we should work together. I agree, but using cops to enforce rules that all don't agree with is not coming together .
     
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    So you DO favor some restrictions on people's behavior! Who gets to decide that behavior?
     
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    Consenting adults decide their own behavior. Children are protected.
     
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