“DOJ tries to oust US attorney investigating Trump allies”

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He can. Nobody is questioning that. Thats why I say you're making it something it is not.

    What the left, and myself are questioning is that he is firing someone who is activly investigating him and his friends. THAT is why this stinks of corruption.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He will

    He is, in a very literal sense, having his people investigating themselves for what happened in the 2016 election and claiming innocence, and then claiming that the ones that investigated them were corrupt. It is just mind boggling to watch this. He is using the full force of the government to electioneer, and the cult is swallowing it hook-line-sinker. There is not one semblance of impartiality in this "investigation". Hell, Stevie Wonder can see whats happening here, and yet the cult is actually supporting it. This is electioneering in its truest form, but using the full force of the government to achieve it. And the fact that he is now removing any oversight is beyond scary for our republic.

    The right needs to be very careful in what they wish for. As they give powers to Trump they need to understand that those powers, once gained, do not get removed. So when the next guy comes in, they will have those same powers. I said this back in 2000-2001 when Bush (whom I voted for) was pushing the Patriot Act. The powers in that were scary broad. And while most on the right fully supported the Patriot Act, and were all gung-ho for its passage, they wont acknowledge that the powers given to the federal government via that act, are the ones that were used to investigate Carter Page, and many others. FISA rules were a very big party of the patriot act.
     
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    I concur.
     
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    He is not investigating Trump....we've been through this....

    Replacing him would not stop any current investigation....the AUSA's are working on, or for that matter what a Grand Jury is looking at, which is independent of the DOJ.

    So what it sounds like, is either you all don't understand the processes, or just falling for left wing propaganda.....or maybe both
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You CANNOT be that obtuse. He is investigating Trump via Rudy. You know that.

    Replacing him would do JUST that. FFS man. He puts someone in there that WILL stop the investigation. In one post you claim that they "work at the pleasure of the president", and in the next post claim that the President cant stop an investigation. Good lord man, your embarrassing yourself

    There is no grand jury. First it gets investigated by the AUSA, THEN it goes to a GJ. Stop the investigation, and their wont be a Grand Jury. 1+1=2

    You have absolutely NO idea what the process is. You're embarrassing yourself man.
     
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    He is not investigating Trump.....

    You like saying FFS....but wow...you really don't have much in terms how the process works

    and now you are just speculating....like you have a number of times been wronghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Sanchez

    GJ get to investigate...they are impaneled to do just that...the fact there isn't one further highlights there is no investigation
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who did Giuliani work for for the last 12-18 months ?

    A Grand Jury does not "investigate", they have the power to ask questions to determine if their is enough evidence to go to trial. The US Attorney brings the evidence to them and they determine if he has enough. The core investigation happens by the US Attorneys OFFICE.

    Of course they have not impaneled one yet. They are gathering evidence. Jebus on a stick man, thats the whole point of firing him before he gets the evidence.

    Stop before you really embarrass yourself.
     
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    This really demonstrates the politicisation of the justice system, Berman and co had been abusing it for so long to go after their political opponents, it's good to see Barr sweep clean. This clip sums it up better than I could;

     
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    He had a number of clients I hope...

    They don't investigate? But they ask questions? hahhahaahh yeah they also can subponeas...to gather evidence...you know investigate.

    oh the "core" now....gotcha.

    Of course they haven't impaneled one yet....
     
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    Keeping the Berman story alive, he's coming to town, although it's behind closed doors...

    SNIP
    The former top federal prosecutor in Manhattan, who resigned last month under pressure from Attorney General William Barr, will testify to the House Judiciary Committee next week about the circumstances of his departure, according to a congressional aide.

    The July 9 closed-door interview will be Congress' first foray into allegations that Barr sought to remove Geoffrey Berman as U.S. attorney to assert more control over investigations that touch closely on President Donald Trump‘s associates and personal interests. Barr has denied the suggestion.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/judiciary-committee-interview-manhattan-federal-210357871.html

    I suspect closed-door because Nadler has to keep the public spectacle of Louis Gohmert under wraps, much like Dr. Treeves of The Elephant Man had to do....
     
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    LMAO
     
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    To be honest, I had to Google the doctors name (although I remember he was played by Anthony Hopkins), but I think that was a perfect analogy myself...
     
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