So Texas is going in the Toilet

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  1. Spim

    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Worst case scenario examples are probably best avoided in this current environment. They don't tend to age well
     
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    If they hit that mark, we would see Abbotts approval numbers rise like Cuomos too. It's a weird phenomenon.
     
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    LOL
     
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    Actually it is 32 and projected to reach 33 by the end of the month. Texas is at 3 and projected to between 16 and 29 by the end of July. IF Texas follows the plan laid out by NY it can avoid this but that's a big if when cooperation is wanting.
    New York got hit hardest first because of Europeans bringing it in, a drawback to being the world's financial capital, it has a highly concentrated population in NYC and New York didn't have a good example to follow. Texas doesn't need to reinvent the wheel.
     
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    And undocumented workers are supposed to be included in your census.
     
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    Where are the additional 7k deaths in NY recorded? I'm only seeing 25k on charts.

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    I suspect that all of these partisan posts about TX not having a significant death toll compared to NY are not going to age well.
     
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    People in NY are packed in tighter together
     
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    And in one city versus 4-5 large metropolitan areas in Texas, each with lower density than NYC. Population density is certainly a major factor in spread and outcomes.
     
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    Given a 2-4 week lag between case count and mortality count, I'm happy to sit back for a few weeks and see what ages well and what doesn't.
     
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    Lock down worked you say? Gee...go figure. Hence why it’s being said that all these states that reopened too early and didn’t make masks mandatory and are seeing these crazy high numbers f’d up. If states like TX didn’t have their collective heads up their arses the US would be in better situation and not seeing businesses have to close AGAIN.
     
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    :wierdface:~ New Covid cases are down in New York because they are all dead ! :tombstone:
    ~ If the China Communist Party was not so ruthless and determined to destroy freedom we would not be in the situation we are seeing .
     
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    Congratulations for surviving this harrowing ordeal. The airline food didn't kill you, either.

    Remember! Wear condoms after the event!

    Future studies will be made whether Fauci can even think.

    At the very least publicly flog a few litterbugs and the rest will be VERY willing to help clean up fixable damage.
     
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    The problem with delay is by two weeks Texas is projected to start having 4-8 thousand deaths per week. That two weeks of wait and see can add upwards of 16000 extra dead. Without action Texas and Florida will pass the NY death toll. Not a good thing.
     
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    Welcome Mr Cuomo, hell throw an extra zero on your numbers. If you're going to make wild assertions, you may as well do it right. :applause:
     
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    Projected to have 4-8k deaths per week...by whom?

    Activities are winding down. Protesters are still out daily and on weekends, but the largest turnout happened in the first 2 weeks of June. They can no longer meet at the bar before and after going to protest.

    Bars closing to everyone, scaling back capacities allowed at restaurants, and mandating masks are obviously control measures.

    All there is to do now is wait.
     
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    I reminisced about my college days on the Covid thread. I injured a knee and went to a sadistic doctor. She pushed in it and pulled it and I felt some discomfort. She then grabbed my foot heel and toe and twisted. Along with someone screaming in the room I managed to kick out the light 12 feet overhead. She actually asked if that hurt right before twisting the other way. She put me on crutches and warned me to stay on them a week even though it would feel better in two days. Sure enough, it felt good after two days and I ditched the crutches. When I got out of bed the next morning when my toe hit the floor I had a flashback to that doctor at the foot of the examining table. I got off the crutches 3 weeks later. My not listening to the doctor cost me an extra two weeks on the crutches.
    By going too fast and not listening to the doctors Texas, Florida, Arizona and California are going to be locked down again watching New Yorkers go to Yankees games
     
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    “While some states followed the advice of public health experts, Texas did not,” Dallas-area State Rep. Toni Rose said from a webcam on Wednesday, a photograph of the Texas Capitol superimposed behind her.
    It was certainly not the first time Democrats in the state had inveighed against a pandemic approach criticized by some as too reckless, and followed months of power struggles between local and state leaders in Texas over lockdowns, masks, and more.

    But the politics of the COVID-19 situation in the state—Democrats yelling into the void, at least until Gov. Greg Abbott ordered mask use in hot zones across the state Thursday—had already given way to hard numbers, not just of cases, but also of hospitalizations, with the state’s medical system suddenly under pressure that seemed unthinkable even a few weeks ago.

    And the numbers are getting more ominous.

    Texas broke another record for daily new cases on Tuesday, at 8,076 infections, according to state data. The previous record, on Monday, was 6,975. Days earlier, the record was 5,996. On June 16, the state broke the 4,000-mark for the first time.”

    So irresponsible of Abbott and his team. Maybe next time they’ll listen and follow strict protocol. Though I doubt it.
     
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    I agree. Also NYC has the vast majority of people using mass transit. They didn't start sanitizing the subways until early May. We are being told by the OP to act like NY, but Texas is under completely different conditions.
     
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    Thanks! Looks like other trackers have added the several thousand deaths to New York and are caught up to JH now.
     
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    I gave New York's worst case, 1000 deaths in July, and compared it to Texas' best case,13000 deaths in July, to demonstrate just how far apart they are. Deaths are a lagging indicator, with the number of new cases already registered for Texas in June the best case is pretty clear, it's worst case, 25000, is what to expect if there are no new actions.

    I am reminded of the efforts to eradicate diseases. Smallpox was eradicated because global vaccinations occurred. Polio was almost eradicated but two small pockets in the world refused vaccinations and polio continues to kill and cripple.

    With Covid-19 everyone has to unite and do what needs doing to get rid of the scourge but as long as there is resistance by selfish pockets everyone pays the price. United we stand! Divided we fill up our hospitals.
     
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    You'll find a wealth of info in the covid tracking thread
     
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    Yes, I followed it daily for the first several weeks while I was studying the virus.
     
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    Hmm.. so much anger, so little data to base it on... Typical. I honestly don't understand what you lefties want here. TX did lock down. For more than a month. We were doing just fine until all those out of state agitators came here and fired up the protests. Ever since/ We have infections. And they are on the rise. But for folks like you who feel that this is some how retribution against folks who really shouldn't ever have been at risk in the first place, why do you suppose it makes you so gleeful? The interesting thing about the reporting at the national level about TX is that the reporting is so wrong. Last week it was running out of hospital beds in the ICUs, even though EVERY hospital facility has refuted it. Still, it makes the news nationally TX running out of beds.. blah blah....It didn't matter that the vast majority of those in ICUs were folks needing care but not for WuFlu. And frankly, EVERY hospital in the area has set aside capacity just for that.

    here's a thought. In a county near mine, there are over 1500 cases since new. Of those, only 36 ever were admitted into the hospital. ~2%. And as the cases go up, (because folks are getting tests of which there are plenty) hospital consumption is not. And, as folks recover, and they are, the mortality rates are even lower. In that country, only 10 deaths, ~<1%. And instead of making news for how folks are beating the disease here, folks like you, and the national media scowl and wring your scaly hands about how best to vilify TX.

    Just remember, the virus didn't start in TX. It came from other places, like New York, or NJ, or CA and WA. It came to us. Where was all this angst from you when it was just coming to NYC? or LA, or San Francisco, or Seattle? All I can recall is folks, like you, who chided the rest of us for calling for quarantines of the effected areas, like China, because that was racist. TX will be fine. But we will certainly remember who put the folks of our state at risk.
     

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