Feds arrest ‘ringleader’ in attack on Andrew Jackson statue by White House

the dixiecrats were in the 40s one presidential election then were welcomed back. A handful of dems switched parties as they realized the error of their ways Thorm being the most famous...but folks like Byrd reminded and the party never changed much

 

I know when the official Dixiecrats were first born. The Dixiecrat philosophy is what continued even after Storm Thurmon left the Democratic Party. Sadly and shamefully the Republican Party welcomed him with open arms. Byrd was for lack of a better description a racist and a KKK member in his youth. He left the KKK behind verybearly in his political career.

You must realize that one of the events that sparked the Diviecrats to form their own party was the fact Truman integrated the armed forces.
Southeners also saw the handwriting on the wall and knew that eventually Blcks would start getting the same rights as Whites, speaking in practical terms.

 

Prosecute to the MAX for the damage, the conspiracy to commit the criminal act, the incitement to riot and destroy property and everything they can come up with to charge him and all the others.

 

One of our greatest American hero's who saved the nation at the Battle of New Orleans, one of our greatest heroes.


Ahh the dead one not the one who hangs out here.....

 

the GOP has open arms for anyone willing to leave that sort of past and embrace the Constitution and the principals our country was founded on...even you

 

I will be happy to welcome back those Republicans who are willing to admit that supporting Trump was a horrific mistake and that they believe in the principles that our country was founded on. Guys like Joe Scarborough will always be welcomed back.

 

nothing wrong with trump he’s part of our big tent. trump was one of those folks that saw the error of his ways in supporting dems for so long.

Joe is welcome back anytime. but it seems his heart is so full of hate, until he can release the hate, he can never really leave the DNC

 

Is it my imagination or do you think that there is a significant amount of disgust in the US for the severe prosecution of pampered and chronically offended vandals who destroy our public works of art that were designed and built by far greater minds than those who destroy them?

I've been a blacksmith for over 25 years and in addition to sculpture, I've designed and made everything from detailed, reproduction Elizabethan surgical instruments to wrought iron garden gates of various designs.

Regardless of the statue, I'm intimately familiar with the amount of sweat, burns and hard work that goes into creating a detailed work of metal art and am sickened by their destruction at the soft, little hands of spoiled miscreants who are incapable of creating more than an afternoon bowl of cereal.

Do you think we've reached a turning point or do you think that the destruction of public sculpture will continue unhindered?

 

Unless local officials step up to stop it it will continue, we'll just have to see what happens to them at the ballot boxes.
The thing if all these statues andemkorials are torn down what will be different especially for blacks tomorrow?

 

The Dixiecrats had their moment in 1948 and lost and all went back into the open and welcome arms of the Democrat party where they were reelected and held high positions. By the time Thurmond moved to the Republican party, almost 30 years later the civil rights battles were over and the Democrats segregationists had lost to the Republicans. There was no huge shift it took place over time as the Dem segregationists were voted out or resigned if died. There was ONE Thurmond.

And BTW Barry Goldwater by executive order desegregated the Arizona National Guard before any other governor and BEFORE Truman did so for the federal military. Fail.

 

Of the 21 Southern Democrat Senators who voted against be CRA and VRA how many were in this rush to switch to Republicans? How many switched parties? How many stayed retaining their leadership positions and were reelected as Democrats?

 

And these

Donald Trump effigy burned by protesters
Heads roll in the streets of Los Angeles as a large Donald Trump effigy was set on fire by protesters the day after he was elected
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/11/10/donald-trump-effigy-burning-los-angeles-bts.cnn

These

 

Jackson achieved major military victories over powerful enemies of America because he was a ruthless "by any means necessary" commander. Every American should be grateful to Jackson for doing what needed to be done to secure New Orleans and millions of acres in the midwest for future generations.

Creek, Cherokee and freedmen joined Jackson's Army to defeat the hated Red Stick Creek and to stop the British from seizing New Orleans. Of course it would have been even better if Jackson had turned his diverse army against the slavers who objected when he used armed black and Creek fighters to impose marshal law on New Orleans. But that would have been Mission Impossible even for a leader as ruthless and efficient as Jackson.
For these great victories alone monuments to Andrew Jackson should never be removed or defaced by Americans.

Jackson also managed to defeat an already entrenched very corrupt political class. He had to create the Democrat Party to win that victory over the political establishment. Beyond that Jackson actually did 'drain the swamp' with a series of investigations, prosecutions of official criminals and effective reforms.

The fact that Jackson was deadly violent brute is frankly irrelevant even if noteworthy.
Humans are not angels, and angels do not win our wars for us or lead effective battles against official corruption.

 

Trump would not have won without starting a war with the MSM which will always be the determined enemy of any political outsider running for the presidency.
Any politician who deals with the MSM as an objective arbiter of truth gives the MSM the power to take them down at will.

 

Trump's support from black Americans and Hispanics is now high enough to encourage both parties to improve their outreach.

The first party to come up with an alternative to the professional PD model of policing will be very popular in our crime plagued urban hell holes.

IMO, an approach that depends on an armed citizenry and independent local police forces under the command of elected sheriffs to back up or deputize the armed public would be very effective and supported by voters.

Power To The People works every time it is tried.

 

Proving once again that white racism is not yet a figment of the imagination.

 

i have no idea, why you continue to support the dem party he started and continue to support his ideals???

 

@Andrew Jackson - maybe you want to answer SBB's question?

 

This is all I've got, HB:

He was an American soldier and statesman who served as the seventh president of the United States from 1829 to 1837. Before being elected to the presidency, Jackson gained fame as a general in the United States Army and served in both houses of the U.S. Congress. As president, Jackson sought to advance the rights of the "common man" against a "corrupt aristocracy" and to preserve the Union.
Jackson's supporters founded the Democratic Party.

That about sums it up.

 

I see No hate in Joe. In fact what I see is first and foremost his love of country that is why he is so disgusted with a POTUS who is trying to destroy our freedoms, ignoring our Constitution, and acts in a way that can hurt or even destroy our country.

 

I do not recall us talking about Goldwater. Goldwater was a founder of the Arizona Air Guard in Arizona that is a fact. You could call his push to desegregate an order but "executive orders" are political by politicians not military in my book. Yes he deserves credit but where did we talk about Goldwater in this thread, I must have missed it.

Goldwater as compared to Field Marshal Von Bonespurs had a very stellar military record. USArmy during WWII flying for the ferry aircraft command. AIR National Guard unit 1952, and rise to a Major General in the Air Force Reserve. Again why are you talking about Goldwater here in this thread?

 

Southern Democrats ( Senators) voted against civil rights and against voting rights because they were Southeners not because they were Democrats. The Southern Democrats were all men in th at era so to imply that they voted against civil rights because they were Democrats is as foolish as if you said they voted against civil rights because they were men.

You just like others seem to be hung up on being partisan and trying to smear the opposition but you do it on shake your or false grounds.

Why not argue your point based on facts instead of partisan political.

 

As a local businessman in the downtown area he helped to lead the efforts to desegregate the downtown businesses and was one of the first to do so in his own store. You said the South turned away from Truman because he desegregated the federal military, I note that Goldwater whom the left attempts to make out as a racist and why Southerners supported him in fact did so with the military under HIS control before any other governor and before Truman did.

 

They were DEMOCRATS and they vote as DEMOCRAT segregationist where segregation found it's home in the DEMOCRAT party all it's life. Try again with your claim they all switched to the Republican party.

Of the 21 Southern Democrat Senators who voted against be CRA and VRA how many were in this rush to switch to Republicans? How many switched parties? How many stayed retaining their leadership positions and were re-elected as Democrats?

And if you are going to claim I posted something falsely the specifically show what it is which you have not done. Stop trying to rewrite history to mitigate the Democrat party's dark past.

 

To claim that the South supported Goldwater for pushing desegregation in the Arizona Guard is the most rediculous inane untrue bull crap reason I ever heard blurted out by anyone. Come on be serious you expect anyone to believe that the South voted for Goldwater because he like desegregation???..??????? You have just taken the term Hoax and taken to awesome lows. You do know that Goldwater opposed all of the Civil Right legislation of the 1960???????????

Is there anyone here who believes that the South liked Goldwater because he was in favor of military desegregation??

This is just sick!!