Why the Whining About the rise in Virus cases now?

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  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    What if they refuse to be quarantined?
     
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    What?

    I don't know how it works in America, but in my country you can't 'refuse'. You will be politely asked to remain at home, and police will make random daily visits to ensure you're obliging. If you test positive after travelling, you're already in mandatory quarantine - guarded by police and military.
     
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    There is no paradox.
    You did not ask for a definition. You STATED that the definition that YOU assumed was problematic. But, NOBODY agrees with that definition of yours, and it is obviously not how the term is being used.
    This is just obviously false. We haven't had a situation like this since Spanish Flu - where the first case appears to have been in Oklahoma. And, that was a disaster because of the actions of the federal goveernment - suppressing the knowledge of the spread, taking no action on known procedures for reducing such contagions.
    Your proiding NO information to support the above nonsense that you have been purveying. Your repetition is not proof.

    There is a HUGE difference in outcome between the average of what the US has done and what Europe has done.

    When people refer to testing they are NOT suggesting that tests are a remedial or protective - they provide information that is critical in decision making.

    The point of testing is that it can provide the information that allows superior decision making.

    That has been a key element that CDC and other medical experts have pointed to as a requirement allowing for better policy in reducing this pandemic.

    And, that has been pointed out to you over and over again.
     
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    No, it is an airborne and respiratory disease.

    No, ebola is more deadly than covid is. Covid is basically a mild flu.
     
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    Yes they have.

    No law abiding citizen needs to be quarantined. Quarantine does not stop a virus.
     
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    Denying a paradox does not make it go away. Continued use of buzzwords, inversion fallacies, repetitions, and not clearing your paradox is all ignored on sight. No valid argumentation presented.

    There is no "pandemic". A fraction of a percent of people infected worldwide is not even statistically significant, let alone a "pandemic"...
     
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    Denying reality doesn't change it.

    It just exposes the purveyor of the BS for what he isn't.
     
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    There is no evidence of a paradox existing.

    So, disccussing this nonexistent paradox of yours is a little silly.
     
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    If we had leadership that accepted and promoted the fundamentals presented by our state, federal and international medical experts I doubt this would be an issue.

    The problem is that we don't have that.

    Even the plan for opening America created by the executive branch includes calls for wearing face coverings.

    When the president declares medical science to be partisan BS, we do have people who don't follow medical science.

    That isn't a shocker.
     
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    Why the **** is something that is multiple times more deadly than the flu considered mild to you?
     
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    Quarantine limits the ability for the virus to spread.

    When you limit the ability of something enough, you stop itm
     
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    And yet covid-19 is literally a textbook definition of a pandemic.

    Ffs, you are not smart enough to dispute every single ****ing expert on the planet.
     
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    Well, yes they do. Public health laws dictate that reality.

    Of course it does. What an absurd thing to claim. Why do you think humanity has used quarantining for hundreds of years? If the infected are kept quarantined, the contagion cannot spread.
     
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    It’s pretty sunny in Arizona and Florida
     
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    This was done by Trump’s CDC and by the GOP governor of Florida to make it look like more tests were being administered.

    the cases are real

    the hospitalizations are real

    the deaths are real
     
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    It certainly worked in South Korea
     
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    What good is a test if they catch the virus the next day? All they would gain is a false sense of security. In a normal world, people wouldn't get tested unless they had symptoms that required testing.
     
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    There is nothing normal about this situation.

    The more testing the better, if we could do a million a day we could get it down where Europe has it in a matter of weeks.
     
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    How so? A test doesn't prevent or cure anything. It's become nothing more than a tool to feed the hysteria.
     
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    They are not talking about curing anything. What they want is to blame Trump somehow for political purposes.
     
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    Test enough people, and you start catching cases early, before they can spread the disease. You simply quarrantine them.

    That means each week you get fewer cases. You go from thousands to hundreds to single digits.
     
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    Replace your word "quarantine" with "imprison" and you'll get a better feel for the type of tyranny you're proposing. Who's going to enforce these so-called 'quarantines' of yours? The police, the army, the gestapo?
     
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    Thanks, I appreciate that.

    There's nothing like hurricane force paranoia to brighten up the day. Seriously, you put a smile on my face.

    If staying at home for a couple weeks is not something you can manage, I am sure we can help.
     
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