Why the Whining About the rise in Virus cases now?

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  1. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    So are you proposing a voluntary quarantine for everyone who tests positive or one that's mandatory? It has to be one or the other, right?
     
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    That's a good question.

    It's been voluntary, but there are parts of the country where they may need some help.

    The principle is simple enough. No more than necessary...
     
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    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    Herd immunity is a process that works on its own. The more we shield people from the process, the slower the process takes.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    There are approximately three hundred and forty million individuals residing in the united states currently. In order for testing to be accurate, and thus worthwhile, every single individual would need to be tested ever single day of the year. Meaning the united states would need over one hundred and twenty four trillion test kits just to meet that number.
     
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    Yeah.

    And by yeah, I mean hell no.

    Let's say you don't want more wild horses.

    So if you round up and neuter a certain amount, the population stays where it is.

    Double your round up, and the population gets smaller.

    Multiply that by ten and in a few generations, no more horsies...

    Capiche?
     
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    Then what is ultimately being called for on the part of yourself is selecting certain segments of the population of the united states and executing them outright.
     
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    One of the themes, from the Right, I have been seeing my whole life, is saving people by killing them.

    What's that saying you guys have?

    Oh yes, kill them all, and let god sort them out.

    Sorry to disappoint you, but I think "violence is the last refuge of the incompetent".
     
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    You clearly have no understanding of what testing is for

    The main purpose is to gain information about where the virus is...find out if it is spreading..and locate and isolate hot spots and infected people so they can be quarantined.
     
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    You are ignoring the reality that people who get it bad enough to go into hospital but who survive and that includes young people are known to have prolonged difficulties. As yet we do not know how long or how severe. I saw earlier an article saying that the UK has put aside 14 milliion to start looking into this. The best way to stay at work and healthy is masks, hand washing, social distancing and a proper trace and contac t service. Some parts of the US have not helped themselves by not wearing masks. Really it is up to you and your behaviour. Had our Governments prepared we probably could have done this first time and avoided the lockdown. If your hospitals become overwhelmed and I have heard some are getting near this, then that leads either to lockdown again or havoc.
     
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    We are nowhere near herd immunity...and "trying for that" would cost millions of lives and utterly destroy the economy
     
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    If every 100 exposures to COVID results in 1 death and 99 herd immunities, then why should we even be trying to limit exposures? The herd will achieve immunity on its own.
     
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    That doesn't even make sense.

    99 herd immunities?
     
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    In a normal world I'd be the King of the Forest, or maybe a vampire.
     
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    Because INFECTED PEOPLE ARE QUARANTINED!
     
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    Any Govt which cares sufficiently for its citizens. It's happening all over the world, in all different types of Govts and systems. New Zealand did it, and as soon as there were no more cases they opened it all back up again.
     
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    Mandatory, of course. Some people are unbelievably selfish, and won't adhere to 'voluntary'.
     
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    We do not know that infection automatically confers immunity nor do we know whether that immunity lasts longer than a couple of months.
     
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    Do not rely upon government bureaucracies in general, CDC in particular.

    In truth, all men holding power ought to be mistrusted.
     
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    I would suspect also that you do not know of anyone over the past 6 months who has contracted COVID, recovered from it fully, and then contracted it again.
     
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    Setting aside my personal knowledge, this is why I said we simply do not know if such is possible or likely.
     
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    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    If paranoia is your cup of tea, you can always quarantine yourself.
     
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    Define "reality". Have a go at it... ;)
     
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    There is PROOF that a paradox exists, as I have already pointed out. Logic is a closed system, you know.

    Denying a paradox does not make it go away. It needs to be cleared.
     
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    COVID is not "multiple times more deadly" than the common flu.
     
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    No it doesn't, and limit does not mean stop.
     

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