Serious Pucker Factor in the Birthplace of the KKK

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People who think they need guns to protect themselves from oppression by the white establishment are not going to vote for the white establishment to take their guns away...

    I thought that would've been obvious.
     
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    I'm on my phone also so we're even. ;) I'm assuming your numbers correlate to the paragraphs?

    1: is that a no for no such thing as far left extremism? Or a no for you don't consider all extremism far right?

    2: So not all militias are far right.

    3: Of course people with guns have political power. That was part of the point for the 2nd Amendment and militias to begin with. So that the Government can never arbitrarily ignore The People.

    4: you say you know what you're talking about but you're generalizing whole groups of people just because they fight to keep thier Right to keep and bare arms.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've probably spent an hour reading your posts over the years and you haven't converted me. And I'm a white male. Maybe you're not as persuasive as you think.
     
  4. FatBack

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    Here OP, since you could not be bothered to research your own thread, here is the "Birthplace of the KKK" now you are more informed.
    Ku Klux Klan/Founded

    December 24, 1865, Pulaski, TN

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  5. Cosmo

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    You said they "tend to become Democrat proof"; what's obvious is that you're not providing any evidence to support your comment, such as a link to a study.
     
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    I have spent enough time reading yours to completely remove any doubt why I will never support the left. And I'm a white male. Maybe you're not as persuasive as you think.
     
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    This was NOT a 2nd amendment rally.
    The first minute of the video will disabuse anyone of that notion.

     
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    Black people were lynched at pro 2nd Amendment protests? You are lying. I bet you don't know squat about who lynched who and why. You just go with the garbage that you were spoon fed and take it at face value and now you are spewing the same erroneous trash. Let me help you get over your ignorance about lynching.


    Many whites were lynched for fighting racism

    "Black lives matter. They always have. White lives matter, too. The truth is, lives matter. Life matters. So when any life is unjustly taken it is the worst kind of tragedy. But if we refuse to accept facts and instead cling to preconceptions, misconceptions and prejudice, we then choose to replace ignorance with stupidity and history with fantasy."


    "The Negro Holocaust: Lynching and Race Riots in the United States, 1880-1950" states that, contrary to present-day popular conception, lynching was not a crime committed exclusively against black people. Between the 1830s and the 1850s the majority of those lynched in the United States were whites. From 1882-1968, some 4,743 lynchings occurred in the United States (not all lynchings were recorded). Of these, 3,446 or 73 percent were black and 1,297 (27 percent) were white. In other words, whites were the victims of more than one-fourth of all lynchings in the United States."
    https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.co...re-lynched-fighting-racism-opinion/700690001/
    .

    Lynching in the United States

    The purpose was to enforce white supremacy and intimidate black people through racial terrorism. According to Ida B. Wells and Tuskegee University, most lynching victims were accused of murder or attempted murder. Rape or attempted rape was the second most common accusation; such accusations were often pretexts for lynching black people who violated Jim Crow etiquette or engaged in economic competition with whites. Sociologist Arthur F. Raper investigated one hundred lynchings during the 1930s and estimated that approximately one-third of the victims were falsely accused.[3][4] On a per capita basis, lynchings were also common in California and the Old West, especially of Latinos, although they represented less than 10% of the national total. Native Americans, Asian Americans, Italian Americans, Greek Americans, Jewish Americans, and others were also lynched.[5][6] [7] Other ethnicities, including Finnish Americans[8] and German Americans[9] were also lynched occasionally.
    According to the Tuskegee Institute, 4,743 people were lynched between 1882 and 1968 in the United States, including 3,446 African Americans and 1,297 whites. More than 73 percent of lynchings in the post–Civil War period occurred in the Southern states.[10] According to the Equal Justice Initiative, 4,084 African-Americans were lynched between 1877 and 1950 in the South.[11]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States


    Ku Klux Klan
    Founded in 1865, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) extended into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party’s Reconstruction-era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for Black Americans. Its members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and Black Republican leaders. Though Congress passed legislation designed to curb Klan terrorism, the organization saw its primary goal–the reestablishment of white supremacy–fulfilled through Democratic victories in state legislatures across the South in the 1870s. After a period of decline, white Protestant nativist groups revived the Klan in the early 20th century, burning crosses and staging rallies, parades and marches denouncing immigrants, Catholics, Jews, African Americans and organized labor. The civil rights movement of the 1960s also saw a surge of Ku Klux Klan activity, including bombings of Black schools and churches and violence against Black and white activists in the South.

    https://www.history.com/topics/reconstruction/ku-klux-klan

    Now back to the original question. Please link any pro 2nd Amendment protests that resulted in rioting, looting or burning down buildings or vehicles. Links also please. I am still waiting. Please don't respond with anymore crap that you know nothing about like lynching. It just exposes your lack of knowledge about whatever you think you know that you really don't know.
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I've had several guns and many of my liberal friends have one or more. Locked, loaded and liberal, as the saying goes.

    We agree with Heller, you can have a gun for most any reason there is BUT the Constitution does NOT say we have any right to USE them to murder those we disagree with politically.
     
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    You shouldn't need a study to understand the simple logic: if blacks believe guns are important to their liberty, they're not going to vote for people that want to reduce their access to guns.

    Unless you think they're incapable of that logic...
     
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    Well, some are. Stumping for her with the same guns she sought to ban. [​IMG]
     
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    Theres a few morons in every group. By-and-large, I think the DP's constant attempts to disarm the populace will help alienate the black community from them. ...just as it did during reconstruction when the first ever gun control laws were instituted by the then-Dem-affilated KKK targetting newly freed slaves who kept shooting klansmen off their horses during their klan midnight terror raids.
     
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    Specifically who?
     
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    Yea, I am one of those
    I must be doing something correctly for you to spend an entire hour reading my posts. Don't worry, some people are slower than others. Thank you for your time.
     
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    Follow footnote 23 of your post to the wiki page and then follow the link in that footnote. It leads to this web page:

    https://web.archive.org/web/2011021...ubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=4&item=kkk

    Which has this verbiage:
    "By 1921, the Klan numbered almost 100,000 members and money flooded its coffers. At its peak in 1924, 40,000 uniformed Klansmen paraded through the streets of Washington, D.C., during the Democratic National Convention. Like a modern political lobby, the group was so influential that many politicians felt compelled to court it or even to join, particularly in the Midwestern states. Senators, congressmen, governors, judges at all levels, even future President Harry Truman donned the hood and robe (though Truman shortly quit, apparently disgusted by an anti-Catholic tirade). "


    Kinda funny that you provided. I never realized that Truman (Democrat) was a member of the Klan at one time. Thanks.
     
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    Every single one of them, northern dems, southern dems, all of them. Not one democrat voted in favor of the 14th amendment. Not one. The first grand wizard of the KKK was HONORED at the 1868 democrat convention for his "leadership". Hell, they had KKK grand poobah (or whatever) Robert Byrd warming a senate chair all the way to 2010!
     
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    Except the Dem party did not in fact found the KKK. And while southern conservatives, who made up the Dem party back then, were no doubt members of the KKK, they didn't found it.
     
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    Why does it matter who "founded" them? I never said they were "founded" by the democrats. They were founded to oppose republicans.
     
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    It seems to me like the services of a black militia would be better put to use in the urban areas protecting all the of black people that are being murdered in horrifying numbers recently.

    But I guess harassing Trump supporters out in the boondocks is more important than protecting their own neighborhoods, and saving the lives of their own neighbors.

    Priorities.
     
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    The 2nd Amendment crowd is ALL citizens. The 2nd is an enumerated, inalienable right of ALL citizens.

    The more guns and the more trained militias in the USA the better for everybody, and even superlatively better as the police get defunded.
     
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    They would look really stupid (like they are) on the water bikes and pedal boats.
     
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    Yeah, but armed militias would probably work better if they were close to home protecting the citizenry rather than off on road trips intimidating their political rivals.

    If the purpose of your militia is too harass people you don't like, then you're a mob, not a militia.
     
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    Hmm.. So is this supposed to intimidate folks? Part of freedom is that it applies to everyone. This looks like a protest against democrats and their segregationist, terrorist past. What about this is supposed to be scary again?
     
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    I didn't see that these nice folks with long weapons hurt anyone. Perhaps instead of showing up at the park, they were more needed in Atlanta where they could have taught the BLMs folks not to shoot 7 yo girls....
     
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    Do you honestly believe that is what they're protesting?
     

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