Feds arrest ‘ringleader’ in attack on Andrew Jackson statue by White House

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  1. struth

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    yep...we can magically vote for someone not on the ballot or who doesn’t run.
     
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    This what Mitch McConnell said of Helms.

    What a load of bull.
     
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    So you do keep score. The claims are truthful. Plenty of examples. Senators, Governors, Congresspeople. Judges, Government leaders . So many examples, and all of them, to folks like you, are consistently painted with the same brush. Uncle Toms. Why is that? Do you subscribe to the Biden admonition that if they aren't voting democrats they aren't black enough? Can you honestly say that you support someone who says something like that? And let's at least be honest here. Biden said of then candidate Barry, he was "clean... and articulate... you know for a black guy"... And you're still voting for him? Seriously?

    And here's the real message. You'd want conservatives to vote for any political train wreck because they are black? Isn't that just a teensie bit racist? So when conservatives don't vote for say Maxine the marxist, they're racist because they chose democracy and capitalism over tyranny and communism? You're funny. So, had you been in S Carolina, and you had the option to vote for Senator Tim Scott, would you? And tell me, even though so many in S Carolina have had the opportunity to vote for him, why they didn't, and voted for the old white guy instead in the last election? Why is that? If, as you say, you should always vote for the black person, why don't democrats when given the opportunity to do so?
     
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    Mitch isn’t running for president.
     
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    Now the violent leftwingers ripped down a monument to frederick douglas.

    guess he was an uncle tom because he didn’t support the party of the klan and instead supported Conservative principals like freedom
     
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    The slaves did not benefit from Jacksons military victories or reforms.
    The Americans who are the descendants of those slaves, like all Americans, have benefited from Jackson's very effective leadership in the early 19th century.

    Adolf Hitler led Germany to near total destruction. Of course many Germans were eager to forget him just as Democrat pols would like to erase the history of the DP's aggressive war and self destructive nihilism.
     
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    Assuming Helms really was the "kindest man in Congress" what would that say about the potential for human kindness among professional politicians?

    The real problems with McConnell are similar to those associated with The Bidens.
    Which is probably why DP has not focused on McConnell.

    “The system is functioning precisely how they want it to function. Gridlock, complex laws, highly technical bills, and regulations that target specific groups have a commercial purpose for the Permanent Political Class.” EXTORTION, "How Politicians Extract Your money, Buy Votes, And Line Their Own Pockets, Peter Schweizer, HMO, NY, NY, 2013, p. 8.

    Corruption is the constant in DC.
     
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    Mitch is the Leader of the Senate.
     
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    Depictions of black Americans being lynched are racist.
    Hence the impact of Cole Porter's Miss Otis Regrets.

     
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    cool, don’t vote for him. Biden is running for president...i assume you won’t be voting for him given your dislike for Helms and his support for Biden’s legislation
     
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    I have addressed at the time and long term, go back and read again. You have not addressed what I have posted and I directly refuted your claim about Phillips. Parties want voters out of the other party nationwide and since the beginning of parties. Yes the segregationist did not run to the Republican party, voted for Wallace when he ran independent and when he lost was he was welcomed back into the Democrat party and ran and won as a Democrat and Democrats continued to win in the South. Yes it took 30 years for the Republicans to take the South and it was not because of the CRA or the VRA or racial issues.
     
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    What about the pyramids? They were built by slaves and should be destroyed. I would donate towards their airfare.
     
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    My conservative predominately white city has elected a popular black mayor twice including with my vote.
     
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    How many times are you going to try and make the specious claim that the segregationist Democrat was Thurmond thus proving that the segregationist Democrats all switched to the Republican party? Helms was never a Dixiecrat and only enter the Senate long after the passage of the CRA and VRA.

    Of the 21 Southern Democrat Senators who voted against be CRA and VRA how many were in this rush to switch to Republicans? How many switched parties? How many stayed retaining their leadership positions and were re-elected as Democrats?

    "And how many racist Dixiecrats did Nixon win for the GOP? Turns out, virtually none. Among the racist Dixiecrats, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina was the sole senator to defect to the Republicans — and he did this long before Nixon’s time. Only one Dixiecrat congressman, Albert Watson of South Carolina, switched to the GOP. The rest, more than 200 Dixiecrat senators, congressmen, governors and high elected officials, all stayed in the Democratic Party."
    link above

    Stop with the canards
     
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    Those that were slaves at the time under the ownership of Andrew Jackson, were either slaves to other black individuals in the nation of Africa, or were descended from such.

    Is it going to be claimed that black slaves were better under black masters? Or is history going to be denied?
     
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    How many Republicans voted against the 94 crime bill? Can't seem to get an answer on that.
     
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    It is hard for me to believe you voted for a black man, very hard. I definitely don't see Republicans elected a black man maybe for another 100yrs, if then.
     
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    Interesting fantasy, but that's all it is.

    LBJ talked repeatedly about the damage civil rights legislation would do to his party. Republicans, like Kevin Phillips, were taking advantage of that. Read any biography of LBJ, I like Dallek the best, Caro is a close second. If you have paid attention to Kevin Phillips, and it's quite clear you have not, you should.

    Historians have something they call Standard Interpretation (SI). What you are doing is a long ways from the SI.

    Racist went to the Republican party because that's where people were nice to them.

    But, nice fantasy you got there.
     
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    Republican pols do tend to give knee jerk support for expanding the power of police and spy agencies at every level of government. Their support for all these failed DP controlled PDs is the latest example.

    The RP is not known as The Stupid Party for nothing.
     
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    . He advocated the movement of conservatives from the Democratic Party – which they deemed too liberal – to the Republican Party. The Helms-controlled National Congressional Club's state-of-the-art direct mail operation raised millions of dollars for Helms and other conservative candidates, allowing Helms to outspend his opponents in most of his campaigns.

    Helms was the most stridently conservative politician of the post-1960s era, especially in opposition to federal intervention into what he considered state affairs (including legislating integration via the Civil Rights Act and enforcing suffrage through the Voting Rights Act).

    Helms record speaks for itself.
     
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    Your inability to refute the history as a posted even using a person YOU cited as your expert duly noted again. Why I am doing is citing that history from a first person standpoint also. Racist lived in the Democrat party which fought desegregation and civil rights and voting rights for almost 100 year and even after the Republicans finally won on those measure the segregationist Democrats did NOT go flocking to them as I have shown.

    Again
    Of the 21 Southern Democrat Senators who voted against be CRA and VRA how many were in this rush to switch to Republicans? How many switched parties? How many stayed retaining their leadership positions and were re-elected as Democrats?
     
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    What does that have to do with Jackson owning and mistreatment of black people.
     
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    Oh course you do if would not fit the bigoted narrative you are conveying, you have a habit of accusing others as being racist when they disprove your assumptions and postulations as wrong as they are.
     
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    all i know is it was a republican president..trump...who undid biden’s racist law
     
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    Hope they make an example of him, as well as any others like him anywhere in this country. It needs to end.
     

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