So Texas is going in the Toilet

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ....and then there is this "little known news"....

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  2. WalterSobchak

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    Because I am required to wear one entering places of business that have a sign & someone there telling me I need to wear one.

    Wearing clothes doesn't prevent me from getting diseases or contracting a virus, but I am required to wear clothes with shoes or I am not allowed to enter that business.

    I fail to understand what point you believe you are making.
     
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    Right? Crazy kids will be crazy kids! I wasn't super-duper smart a few decades ago either.
     
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    You never answered it when I asked. So, if no one has stated it will 100% prevent you from getting COVID then you are delusional to think you would have a case.
    Where have I marketed them? I haven’t told anyone they should wear a mask. I’ve just pointed out the states where people have been wearing them have far lower daily cases than those that don’t wear them or came late to the party and are now wearing them...sort of. Coincidence? Maybe, but I’m doubtful.
    I’m not telling you to wear one. In fact, please don’t.
     
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    But those stupid 20-30 year olds didn't ground anyone. You can still go out and shop. You just have to wear a mask along with the clothes & shoes those same businesses have been requiring their patrons to wear since the day they opened shop.
     
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    I miss Friday happy hour at the "old people bar", which wasn't crowded and we social-distanced, because the stupid kids grounded us old people from going out safely for a social frosty cold beverage.
     
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    contributing to a recent surge in the number of cases in the state, Gov. Greg Abbott said during a press conference Tuesday.”

    ‘Contributing’ is not the same as “all the fault of 20 and 30 yr olds. Yes, they are a contributing factor.
     
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    I miss hanging at bars with my friends and enjoying delicious craft brews as well. But I can still go out and buy these tasty beverages in numerous liquor stores around town and I will see my friends again soon enough. Nothing for me to act like a Karen about and criticize my Governor for doing the right thing. LOL
     
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    Cuomo can't figure it out either. He already had residents who were identified by contact-tracing who were not obeying quarantine mandates. He said there weren't enough police for enforcement, then he cut the police budget by $1 Billion a year.

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    Then you haven't read the posts. If government requires that I wear the mask because they tell me it is effective as a prophylactic measure against WuFlu. and I still get it, they should be able to be sued. This isn't, or hasn't been a conversation about a choice to do anything. If a business requires a mask to go in, are they doing it because they have been threatened by government that if they aren't following those guidelines they will be shut down? That answer is absolutely yes. So even though it appears that it was the prerogative of the business. it actually isn't. at least here. Government can, and will fine or jail you for not following the policy. You personally, or the business can both be fined. So, it isn't just a conversation about choice. it's a conversation about use of force to comply. I still don't get how you haven't gotten that already.
     
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    I never said Gov. Abbott did the wrong thing. It's the young peoples' fault that reopening fell through, not his. He's just responding by grounding us, like a good papa. LOL

    Lov' My Gov. :)
     
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    ~ Ask Surfer Joe . He knows about masks .:aww:´
     
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    So your entire argument against masks is simply........"Cause I don't wanna do that. Merica!"

    Question for ya, is your life being affected in a negative manner by being told you have to wear a mask during a pandemic?
     
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    So you would have your family sue if your seat belt didn’t save your life in a car accident?
    I thought you said no one has stated the efficacy of masks preventing one from getting COVID? So why do you think you should be able to sue when, according to you, no one has stated masks are a 100% guarantee to prevent you getting COVID?
    I know you won’t answer these questions but it’s still enjoyable to expose you.
     
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    LOL... run away now... That's rich. Frankly, you citations and assertions are baseless here. Answer this. If as you say, you're in NY, what percentage of NY hasn't been already infected? if, as in NYC, there is good evidence that more than a majority of the population has already been exposed, who is left to get it? And, just saying, but TX infection rates today aren't nearly as dramatic or severe as first couple weeks in NY. And as stated, TX wouldn't have had cases had it not been for travelers from infected locations. So, now that we are being affected. if our rates don't ramp as quickly as NY, you'd wonder how what we are doing here isn't a better outcome. perhaps you could at least explain why your governor failed to quarantine those with the virus. That seems remarkably irresponsible of him. And frankly, his failure is going to be the cause of thousands of deaths around the country. How does he live with that?

    I'd point out that wishing harm on others demonstrates your lack of morality here. One hopes you don't get an infraction from the forum for it....
     
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    Much better when Abbott was able to be laissez-faire. Businesses opened if they wanted to. Some business owners never were comfortable, so they stayed closed. Some businesses required masks, like HEB. Some businesses did not require them. Most citizens were wearing masks and some weren't. I understand Abbott thinking he needs to pull back, but now that tens of thousands of asymptomatic and mild-case kids are running around, we might as well reopen and let everyone make their own decisions on what they want to do or not do.
     
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    Folks sue for perceived defect all the time. Are you demanding that they could no longer have that option? And no one I know has said they are 100% effective, in fact the opposite is indicated from the science. So, if government requires it of you as a condition of your mobility, should it prove to not protect you, the curative government required of you is defective, and folks sue over defects all the time. no? So, I have answered your questions, now why can't you be so kind as to answer the ones you've been asked? I mean, I know the answer already. you don't have answers. And instead of simply admitting it, you're unable to allow your ego to let go.
     
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    Isn't Abbot a tRUMP thug?
     
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    Are you making fun of paraplegics? That's not very socially just of you. Tsk. Tsk.
     
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    Honestly, at this point, the data isn't supporting the hysteria any more. And while I personally don't want be get sick, and I might take measures like wearing a mask in public places that are crowded the good news for me is that there just aren't that many folks around unless we travel to Austin or other larger cities. And if we do go out there. we wear a mask in public places. We know they aren't effective enough to provide much protection, but the simple truth is that you have to wear them to go into public in those places. And, at some point, without a vaccine or a treatment plan, hope would say we get through it quickly so we can move on from this debacle. Herd immunity certainly cuts into potential drug/vaccine profits. I am hopeful policy isn't being decided based on that observation. But it is true, none the less that natural immunity would reduce the need for universal vaccination. and hence less income for those who produce those services.
     
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    Back then we didn't have adequate masks.
    Most were wearing bandana type masks.

    Now there are surgical type masks everywhere, that are supposedly, 50% effective? Where bandana's were about 3% effective.

    I have been required to wear one at work, but that is about the only place so far. But I'm starting to see them most everywhere outside my tiny little community.
     
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    Not aware of that? Link?
     
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    I think the higher testing numbers means more young people are getting tested before vs just the vulnerable ones. I don't know but I'd like to think this increased positive count will translate into the massive death counts that occurred in ny/nj, etc.
     

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